Monroe County

john56 · #1 (**permalink**) 02-13-2005, 04:12 PM

Is Monroe County still dispatching on 154.43 & 460.175? I have not heard anything lately.......

Thanks,
john

rdale · #2 (**permalink**) 02-13-2005, 04:15 PM

1) Y (that will be in effect forever likely because the pagers are not trunking capable)
2) N

Gary69 · #3 (**permalink**) 02-18-2005, 09:30 PM

Thy are using 800 MHz digital you need a digital scanner like the Radio Shack PRO-96 Digital

rdale · #4 (**permalink**) 02-19-2005, 06:38 AM

They are still dispatching fire on analog 154.430MHz and will likely be dispatching there for a LONG time, so you don't need a digital scanner if all you are worried about is dispatch as he posted.

johnvassel · #5 (**permalink**) 02-19-2005, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rdale

They are still dispatching fire on analog 154.430MHz and will likely be dispatching there for a LONG time, so you don't need a digital scanner if all you are worried about is dispatch as he posted.

Kind of the nice thing about us rural fire folks. There's no way someones going to give 22 members of my dept trunking radios in order to get toned out, so dispatch will be analog for most of my volunteer career.
Even Ingham co. snatched grand ledges old frequency, they'll be toning out any county depts via that frequency.

john

rjschall · #6 (**permalink**) 02-27-2005, 10:41 PM

Yes the simulcasting will be done on 154.430 but it will not be done forever. The only thing you will hear once everything is hooked up and everyone is totally up and running on the 800, is that on 154.43 all you;ll hear is the tones and what the call is. everything then will be switched over to the 800 system once the call goes out. you will not hear any other radio traffic come through once this is all set and done.

460.175 sheriffs dept. has been online the new system completely since last month

SEMTTP · #7 (**permalink**) 02-28-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rjschall

Yes the simulcasting will be done on 154.430 but it will not be done forever. The only thing you will hear once everything is hooked up and everyone is totally up and running on the 800, is that on 154.43 all you;ll hear is the tones and what the call is. everything then will be switched over to the 800 system once the call goes out. you will not hear any other radio traffic come through once this is all set and done.

460.175 sheriffs dept. has been online the new system completely since last month

Dont look for that to happen anytime soon. There are major problems with 154.430. As of right now they are using a tone of 118.8. There is also talks about something else dealing with the VHF freqency, but I cannot mention yet, but will as soon as it is ok. The VHF will be around forever. Monroe County will always use their Fire VHF frequency. Fire will not be totally dependent on the MPSCS as the Sheriff is. Stay tuned!

Eric

rdale · #8 (**permalink**) 03-05-2005, 01:51 PM

From what I heard a few days ago, the fire simulcast will be turned off this coming week and the only thing on VHF will be pager tones and dispatches.

rjschall · #9 (**permalink**) 03-05-2005, 03:26 PM

According to my sources, Monday 3/7 is the day for the switchover for Fire.

SEMTTP · #10 (**permalink**) 03-05-2005, 07:39 PM

Yep that is correct. It has been listed on my website for the last couple of days. Monday is the deadline for the patch. I know a lot of firefighters are pretty irritated about it, but it should be ok.

Eric

Tophtoh · #11 (**permalink**) 03-06-2005, 11:37 AM

Well, I was in Monroe County last night and I have to say I am upset with the quality. I've heard other MCPCS systems and they sound fine. What diff. about Monroe's? The only place I could hear them good is about 2nd and S Monroe. Any feed back? Thanks

SEMTTP · #12 (**permalink**) 03-06-2005, 11:44 AM

Well a couple of things. 1)Monroe is the FIRST Simulcast MPSCS System to go online 2)Are you refering to Fire or Police sounding bad?

I am in Ypsilanti, and I have to monitor that system off of the Flat Rock Tower, as the dundee tower does not do well up here. I often listen to the data channel and can hear it just fine, but none of my scanners will decode it. I think it is a Simulcast issue. I think maybe it is designed to only do well in Monroe County, but not outside the county. On that same note, I hear Monroe Couty just fine off of the flatrock tower.

It is really funny how these towers operate, as I cannot even hear the Ann Arbor Tower and it is even in my county!!!(well off my new discone with "N" connectors I cannot hear it, but on my 3 element beam I can a bit)

Eric

Thunderbolt · #13 (**permalink**) 03-06-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tophtoh

Well, I was in Monroe County last night and I have to say I am upset with the quality. I've heard other MCPCS systems and they sound fine. What diff. about Monroe's? The only place I could hear them good is about 2nd and S Monroe. Any feed back? Thanks

What kind of reception problems are you having? Are you receiving a lot of static or digital "bonking"? Also, what kind of antenna, coax, and radio are you using?

73's

Ron

Tophtoh · #14 (**permalink**) 03-06-2005, 11:50 AM

I'm using a PRO-96 with a rubber ducky 800 antenna. I'm assuming there's a repeater in the city right? Thier system sucks compared to Ohio MARCS. I can hear MARCS better from Monroe County then I can Monroe County in Monroe County! Have you heard any reports of how the officers and dispatchers or what not like it? I am having static mostly, some bonking in the middle of transmissions.

SEMTTP · #15 (**permalink**) 03-06-2005, 11:55 AM

There are Four Towers in Monroe County.....Berlin, Dunbar, Dundee, and Whiteford. There are no repeaters in Monroe at all for the 800 MHz MPSCS System(except for Icall and Itac channels)

With the 800 Rubber Duck, I would expect that you would hear some bonking etc....and if you are in Ohio, you definatly will because the system is not designed to be heard in Ohio!

Eric

Tophtoh · #16 (**permalink**) 03-06-2005, 12:02 PM

No, I was stating. I can hear MARCS when I am in Monroe better than I can hear Monroe's system when I am in Monroe.

rdale · #17 (**permalink**) 03-06-2005, 12:20 PM

As mentioned in the other threads this has been posted on - none of the scanners currently out were developed for CQPSK systems. Hopefully the 396T will be better suited.

Tophtoh · #18 (**permalink**) 03-06-2005, 12:40 PM

What does CQPSK mean? Is that 9600 baud?

rdale · #19 (**permalink**) 03-06-2005, 12:44 PM

No, it's a type of APCO25 that is used for simulcast towers (like Monroe Co.) Originally the Pro96 did not support it at all, and the Bearcat line did (but barely.) The Pro96 was upgraded about a year ago and the Bearcat also got an update, but my guess is you can only do so much when none of the scanners had a system to test with during development.

I've held my Pro96 next to one of Monroe Co's handhelds and the Motorola did a notably better job.

- Rob

Thunderbolt · #20 (**permalink**) 03-06-2005, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SEMTTP

There are Four Towers in Monroe County.....Berlin, Dunbar, Dundee, and Whiteford. There are no repeaters in Monroe at all for the 800 MHz MPSCS System(except for Icall and Itac channels)
Eric

The Dunbar Road Tower is technically in Monroe:

http://tiger.census.gov/cgi-bin/mapg....pl?cs=WQBM334

73's

Ron