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Old 02-06-2009, 10:30 PM
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Hi everyone. I'm a little confused about who is using the FM Freq of 166.2875. It is listed at Federal Law Enforcement Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference as belonging to the ATF Tri cities of Flint, Saginaw-Bay City/Midland however that is not what I'm picking up listening from Port Huron. During the day I occasionally hear buses being taken in for fuel/repair and tonight since 21:30 all I hear are scores from hockey games being reported to someone who is recording them in some type of log. One com I heard was "Is there any place for my referees to get changed?" The freq is very active as of 22:22 on Feb 6, and I'm wondering if people involved with the Silverstick hockey tournament are using this (if the tournament is still going on).

Also, does anyone know what freqs/TG the ATF use in Michigan or are they encrypted?

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There might be a Nac attached to that freq so you can monitor it. W/o the nac it opens it up.

Maybe Les can explain more.
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I monitor federal stuff almost exclusively in SE Michigan. It sounds to me like you are picking up some Canadian traffic by your description of what you are hearing.

If you were hearing ATF it would most likely be P25 and running a NAC of 650. The ATF repeater in the Detroit area has been P25 for awhile now. The main repeater in Detroit is 165.2875 but is usually not very active. I did hear some testing last week on the repeater and that is the first I had heard it active in quite awhile. I believe they may also have a few TG's on MPSCS if I remember right.

The Federal freq listing on Radio Reference for Michigan is not 100% correct. There is a lot of inncorrect information on there and a lot of outdated information.
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Thanks guys.

diskmonger--I'll try the freq and NAC that you listed and see if I hear anything. I'll also do a little research on the net to see if I can find anything else out. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
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Puttting in the Freq Range of 165.2700 - 165.3000 here are the possible users in Canada
https://sd.ic.gc.ca/pls/engdoc_anon/..._range_results

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Tx Frequency (MHz) Rx Frequency (MHz) Station Location Licensee Name
158.580000 165.270000 ST-ZENON, QC. 9160-7895 QUÉBEC INC. AMBULANCES RADISSON
159.780000 165.270000 CAMP ROBINSON ONT Bell Aliant Regional Communications Inc.
163.875000 165.285000 WILBERFORCE, ONT. (ESSONVILLE LINE) COUNTY OF HALIBURTON ROADS DEP
165.270000 158.580000 REGION DE LANAUDIERE, QC 9160-7895 QUÉBEC INC. AMBULANCES RADISSON
165.270000 158.580000 REGION DE LANAUDIERE, QC AMBULANCE DE JOLIETTE INC
165.270000 158.580000 ST-DAMIEN ET LES ENVIRONS, QC. 9037-0461 QUEBEC INC AMBULANCE ST-
165.270000 162.270000 NORTHERN ONTARIO UPI INC. 105 SILVERCREEK PARKWAY N.
165.270000 165.270000 ARNPRIOR ONT GARDINERS TREE TRIMMING AND REMOVAL LTD
165.270000 165.270000 CARLETON PLACE, ON PREMIER BUS LINES INC
165.270000 165.270000 CARLETON PLACE, ON PREMIER BUS LINES INC
165.270000 165.270000 CARLETON PLACE, ON PREMIER BUS LINES INC.
165.270000 165.270000 COPPER CLIFF (SMELTER CONTROL ROOM) INCO Limited F. Guidotti RF
165.270000 165.270000 COPPER CLIFF ONT (NICAM BOOTH ) INCO Limited F. Guidotti RF
165.270000 165.270000 COPPER CLIFF, ONTARIO INCO Limited F. Guidotti RF Communications Admin
165.270000 165.270000 HARTY AND KAPUSKASING, ONTARIO 782900 ONTARIO LTD A/S LACHANCE
165.270000 165.270000 HARTY ONTARIO 782900 ONTARIO LTD A/S LACHANCE CONSTRUCTION
165.270000 165.270000 HARTY ONTARIO 782900 ONTARIO LTD A/S LACHANCE CONSTRUCTION
165.270000 165.270000 KAPUSKASING, ON (154 CLEAR LAKE N.) 782900 ONTARIO LTD A/S LACHANCE C
165.270000 165.270000 LONDON ONT (573 ADMIRAL COURT) 947465 ONTARIO LTD. O/A VOYAGEUR
165.270000 165.270000 LONDON ONT AREA 947465 ONTARIO LTD. O/A VOYAGEUR LIMO & CHECKER L
165.270000 165.270000 ST ALBERT QUARRY FINCH TWP TRP READY-MIX LIMITED
165.270000 165.270000 ST ALBERT QUARRY FINCH TWP TRP READY-MIX LIMITED
165.270000 165.270000 ST ALBERT QUARRY FINCH TWP TRP READY-MIX LIMITED
165.270000 165.270000 ST ALBERT QUARRY TRP READY-MIX LIMITED
165.270000 165.270000 TIMMINS ONTARIO TIMMINS TIRE & SALES LIMITED
165.270000 165.270000 TIMMINS ONTARIO TIMMINS TIRE & SALES LIMITED
165.270000 165.270000 TIMMINS, ONTARIO (MTCE) TIMMINS AND DISTRICT HOSPITAL
165.270000 167.550000 FAUQUIER, ONTARIO BOIS A. LACHANCE LUMBER LTD.
165.270000 167.550000 HARTY, ONTARIO & AREA BOIS A. LACHANCE LUMBER LTD.
165.270000 167.550000 HARTY, ONTARIO & AREA BOIS A. LACHANCE LUMBER LTD.
165.270000 167.550000 MATTICE, ONT. (TVO TOWER) BOIS A. LACHANCE LUMBER LTD.
165.270000 169.290000 BURLINGTON & AREA BURLINGTON HYDRO INC. COMMISSION
165.270000 169.290000 BURLINGTON & AREA BURLINGTON HYDRO INC. COMMISSION
165.270000 169.290000 BURLINGTON ONT 1340 BRANT ST BURLINGTON HYDRO INC. COMMISSION
165.270000 169.290000 BURLINGTON, ON, 1386 WALKERS LINE BURLINGTON HYDRO INC. COMMISSION
165.270000 169.785000 PORT CARLING,ON (3841 HWY 118 WEST) TELEQUIP SYSTEMS LIMITED Attn:
165.270000 ARNPRIOR ONT GARDINERS TREE TRIMMING AND REMOVAL LTD
165.270000 ARNPRIOR ONT GARDINERS TREE TRIMMING AND REMOVAL LTD
165.270000 OTTAWA ONTARIO GARDINERS TREE TRIMMING AND REMOVAL LTD
165.285000 163.875000 BANCROFT, ONT. HWY28 COUNTY OF HALIBURTON ROADS DEPARTMENT
165.285000 163.875000 BANCROFT, ONT. HWY28 COUNTY OF HALIBURTON ROADS DEPARTMENT
165.285000 163.875000 BICROFT ONTARIO MUNICIPALITY OF HIGHLANDS EAST
165.285000 163.875000 EAGLE LAKE, ONT. COUNTY OF HALIBURTON ROADS DEPARTMENT
165.285000 163.875000 GOODERHAM, ONT. COMMUNITY CTR RD. COUNTY OF HALIBURTON ROADS
165.285000 163.875000 GOODERHAM, ONT. MCCOLL RD. COUNTY OF HALIBURTON ROADS DEPARTMENT


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diskmonger--I'll try the freq and NAC that you listed and see if I hear anything. I'll also do a little research on the net to see if I can find anything else out. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
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Thanks guys.

diskmonger--I'll try the freq and NAC that you listed and see if I hear anything. I'll also do a little research on the net to see if I can find anything else out. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
I would usually say leave the freq in "open mode" just incase, but if you want to filter out that canadian stuff you are hearing you will have to assign a NAC.

Before ATF went P25 they would use a PL of 100.0 Hz. It's possible they still have the capability to operate in analog mode still.
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