I have the Display ID

jcrincon · #1 (**permalink**) 08-24-2005, 05:19 PM

If I have some display ID's is there anyway to get the talkgroup number out of that? I have serveral from a dispatcher.

seamusg · #2 (**permalink**) 08-24-2005, 05:36 PM

If it's on the MPSCS try here:
http://www.radioreference.com/module...=TRSDB&sid=100

jcrincon · #3 (**permalink**) 08-24-2005, 10:14 PM

It is on the MI state system and not in the list, I guess I will have to monitor with the bank open until I pick them up and figure it out.

greenthumb · #4 (**permalink**) 08-24-2005, 10:28 PM

The IDs that you got from a dispatcher are probably taken off of the consoles and are likely to be individual subscriber IDs that don't have aliases attached to them, and not talk group IDs. They won't help you out much for trunk tracking.

seamusg · #5 (**permalink**) 08-24-2005, 11:17 PM

What are they????

rdale · #6 (**permalink**) 08-25-2005, 12:20 AM

"The IDs that you got from a dispatcher are probably taken off of the consoles and are likely to be individual subscriber IDs that don't have aliases attached to them, and not talk group IDs."

Why do you say that? All the console radios I've seenat LFD have a "cheatsheet" of talkgroups and the position they are programmed in the radio sitting right next to them.

- Rob

seamusg · #7 (**permalink**) 08-25-2005, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by greenthumb

The IDs that you got from a dispatcher are probably taken off of the consoles and are likely to be individual subscriber IDs that don't have aliases attached to them, and not talk group IDs. They won't help you out much for trunk tracking.

I thought that the MPSCS was ONE SYSTEM not every user a seperate system. IE EACH DISPLAY SYSTEM WIDE

rdale · #8 (**permalink**) 08-25-2005, 09:50 AM

Dispatchers can access individual users by their radio ID - if that is the list that this person has it would be of little use unless you want to watch for any private calls made by that radio.

greenthumb · #9 (**permalink**) 08-25-2005, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rdale

"The IDs that you got from a dispatcher are probably taken off of the consoles and are likely to be individual subscriber IDs that don't have aliases attached to them, and not talk group IDs."

Why do you say that? All the console radios I've seenat LFD have a "cheatsheet" of talkgroups and the position they are programmed in the radio sitting right next to them.

- Rob

What are you defining as a "display ID", Rob? I am trying to guess at what he is seeing - so your guess is as good as mine. As a norm, it is more typical to have individual IDs show up on a dispatch console than a talk group ID cheat sheet.

Thanks for your kind-spirited reply, though. It was helpful.

greenthumb · #10 (**permalink**) 08-25-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by seamusg

I thought that the MPSCS was ONE SYSTEM not every user a seperate system. IE EACH DISPLAY SYSTEM WIDE

It is, but there are two different kinds IDs in a system: talk group IDs and individual radio IDs. Talk group IDs are what you are looking for to listen in on a trunking scanner to the different users like "anytown" police dispatch, etc. Individual radio IDs won't help you out much with a scanner. You may want to check out:

http://www.radioreference.com/wiki/index.php/Trunking

for more information on trunking.

rdale · #11 (**permalink**) 08-25-2005, 03:16 PM

"As a norm, it is more typical to have individual IDs show up on a dispatch console than a talk group ID cheat sheet."

Not sure I follow you... I have one of the MPSCS rigs right next to me, and it displays the talkgroup name unless someone is transmitting, when it shows the radio ID. The radios in Lansing's EOC all have a list of the talkgroup names and their bank/channel assignments for that radio sitting on the desk. So both are valid "descriptors" - it's the latter that doesn't do any good for trunktracking (unless you use the Pro96 software.)

- Rob

jcrincon · #12 (**permalink**) 08-25-2005, 05:06 PM

To help clarify this if you look in the database and go to Iron County talkgroups it lists one group and a "display" of 36P911. I have a list of different codes like 36C911 comms, 36E911, and so on. According to the dispatcher that is what he calls talkgroups and they are all different channels. I was looking for a way to convert into group id's to enter into my pro-2096.

rdale · #13 (**permalink**) 08-25-2005, 05:50 PM

You can't until you figure out what the numeric ID is...

seamusg · #14 (**permalink**) 08-25-2005, 07:06 PM

36P911 is:
7080 1ba8 D 36P911 Central 9-1-1 Police - Dispatch
??E911 is normally EMS with ?? being the county number ie. 36 Iron Co,
??C911 has no match in the db , maybe car to car.
If yu can ID the last two please submit them, Iron county only has one listing in the db.

Thunderbolt · #15 (**permalink**) 08-25-2005, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by seamusg

??C911 has no match in the db , maybe car to car.
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"C" is like a Countywide Common 9-1-1 PSAP-to-PSAP.

73's

Ron

seamusg · #16 (**permalink**) 08-26-2005, 12:16 AM

Could be, I don't know the structure for Iron Co.
Also saw you had a nude guy in a pick up in Ann Arbor today.

RyltnVFD · #17 (**permalink**) 08-26-2005, 03:29 PM

I've noticed that Berrien County seems to be an outlier when it comes to channel structure and use. We use the 11NCOM and 11SCOM TG's for our everyday radio traffic, except for LEIN, which is on our North and South LEIN TG's. Our 11P911 TG is used only as an emergency/tac channel for priority calls and the like. And 11F911 seems to be hardly ever used, as most fire traffic is still on 154.250.

Post what Display ID's you have, to see if anyone recognizes them and could possibly identify them.