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03-13-2012, 1:29 PM
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MSP helicopter patrolling over Grand Rapids
Was at the GRR viewing area at early this afternoon monitoring airband. Around 13:30 hours the MSP helicopter N111SP departed GRR and proceeded over downtown Grand Rapids. The MSP crew informed the GRR controllers they were on patrol. I checked the local news sites to see if there was any incidents they may have been responding to, but found none.
Wondering why they may have been "patrolling." I thought traffic enforcement used fixed wing aircraft generally away from urban areas, and their helicopters aren't typically dispatched unless there's a major incident or security for a visiting VIP.
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03-13-2012, 2:40 PM
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Not unusual to be looking for plots of marijuana plants from the air/ or traffic on the x-ways.
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03-13-2012, 4:08 PM
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Originally Posted by N8RUS
Not unusual to be looking for plots of marijuana plants from the air/ or traffic on the x-ways.
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Uhhh, not really prime growing season, unless they're looking for overheated inside grow operations with the infrared equipment...
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03-13-2012, 7:56 PM
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Not unusual for them to just fly, you can hear their actual ops on the MPSCS talkgroups.
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03-13-2012, 8:27 PM
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They patrol over Detroit 2-3 days a week. I heared they are looking in to buying 2 more helicopters to expand patrols over major citys in Mich. Last month they took a Bell rep. up for tour.
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03-13-2012, 9:15 PM
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Seems like just yesterday that we had to sell off almost all of the aircraft because we were broke.....
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03-13-2012, 9:28 PM
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I was wondering where TROOPER 2 has been for awile. I haven't seen him pass over my house in days now. Around 03:30pm he will pass over my house low level. I'm just north of Detroit City Airport.
123.025 is a popular A/A freq for helo's.
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03-13-2012, 9:41 PM
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Originally Posted by OCO
Seems like just yesterday that we had to sell off almost all of the aircraft because we were broke.....
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Yea do you remember when Jenny was in office and there was not even enough money for fuel? The big joke up here was when Otsego did a status check with the state units would always come back with a statement like we are on stationary patrol I-75 mm 284. A call or two and one trip on I-75 through the county and their mileage would be used up for the shift. When you drive by our post it looks like a MSP car dealership lot and Ricky has big plans with troops for the future. I never would have guessed closing down posts (not selling them) would have had such big results. I might want to think about closing down house (not selling it) seeing how well it has worked for the state!!!
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03-14-2012, 10:24 AM
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Uhhh, not really prime growing season, unless they're looking for overheated inside grow operations with the infrared equipment...
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I thought this was found unconstitutional as a warrantless search?- sort of invading citizen's rights against unreasonable searches. Not sure where the courts are on this nowdays.
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03-18-2012, 9:11 PM
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They had a chopper in Muskegon last July just flying around and assisting.
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03-19-2012, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KB2SKY
I thought this was found unconstitutional as a warrantless search?- sort of invading citizen's rights against unreasonable searches. Not sure where the courts are on this nowdays.
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Where did you see that at? Because HEMP fly's are done all the time.....
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03-19-2012, 12:13 PM
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It's my understanding they can fly and look for anything within 'plain sight', but cannot use IR or other special imaging without a warrant as that is no longer 'plain sight'
It's been a few years since I took those classes... but I thinks that's accurate.
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03-19-2012, 4:56 PM
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That was my recollection, also. Something to the effect that using FLIR and other heat cameras constituted an invasion of pricacy, or at least a presumption of guilt. Not saying it doesn't happen, just that the officers aren't supposed to go on such a fishing expedition.
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03-22-2012, 12:40 AM
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TROPPER 2 is back flying over Detroit in the Bell Jet Ranger N111SP. Saw him flying east bound along 7 Mile around 4pm Wednesday. He didn't fly over my house this time.
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03-22-2012, 11:22 PM
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Flir is used on a regular basis. I assume that if they spotted you growing indoors originally from flir, they would not tell you but monitor electricity or something to use as a basis, etc. Considering your defensive position and post count, one would become suspicious itself, regardless perhaps it may just be easier to get a legal green card lol (license) to grow.
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