City of Flint narrow-banding and/or their MPSCS migration....

tomroot · #1 (**permalink**) 12-13-2012, 8:38 AM

December 31st is getting very close! Does anyone have current information on this topic?

W8RMH · #2 (**permalink**) 12-13-2012, 11:09 AM

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w8fsm · #3 (**permalink**) 12-13-2012, 12:48 PM

it's coming..... they are fine though as they already have a plain to migrate so extension isn't an issue for them on the deadline..

tomroot · #4 (**permalink**) 12-14-2012, 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by w8fsm

it's coming..... they are fine though as they already have a plain to migrate so extension isn't an issue for them on the deadline..

Thank you :-)

tomroot · #5 (**permalink**) 12-24-2012, 8:53 AM

All this has been taken care of....the City of Flint PD and FFD have both now moved successfully to the MPSCS :-) ....and life is good :-) ....very good :-) ....and they will be rebanded along with the rest of GENCO, whenever that occurs....

a29zuk · #6 (**permalink**) 12-26-2012, 8:23 AM

I've been regularly monitoring the Flint Fire Dispatch(12918) and the LEIN(12983) channels. But I haven't heard a peep from the Police Dispatch(12981) channel. Has anyone monitored the PD Dispatch channel?

Jim

a29zuk · #7 (**permalink**) 12-26-2012, 4:22 PM

Aha! Did some more monitoring today. Flint PD Dispatch is still on 2415, but it is a digital signal, not a patch from the old analog system. 12981 has no traffic on it yet.

w8fsm · #8 (**permalink**) 12-26-2012, 5:57 PM

12981 is patched with 2415 still yes.. but if you scanner is an older one it doesn't follow the patch correctly.. IE.. pro-2096/96 scanners won't so you have to program both talkgroups in... the newer 106 and others will follow patches correctly.. So there is traffic on 12981...

a29zuk · #9 (**permalink**) 12-27-2012, 12:17 PM

Yes, I have an older scannner - a 396T. Thanks for explaining.

Jim

Ronaldski · #10 (**permalink**) 12-27-2012, 12:29 PM

Dumb question but since im up in Bay City I may not be able to get them here. I'll have to most likely put in Saginaws CC frequency. Anyways Flint is using the Genesee system correct?
868.3875 / 868.8875

rdale · #11 (**permalink**) 12-27-2012, 12:59 PM

Correct. If you can hear those CCs, you can hear Flint.

Speaking over - life will be much gooder for those listening to Genessee Co with a HP1 or 396XT in the next week or so. (And Lapeer / Detroit / Monroe as well...)

netfire · #12 (**permalink**) 12-27-2012, 1:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rdale

Correct. If you can hear those CCs, you can hear Flint.

Speaking over - life will be much gooder for those listening to Genessee Co with a HP1 or 396XT in the next week or so. (And Lapeer / Detroit / Monroe as well...)

You talking about the rebanding, Rob? Those systems will be easier to monitor?

rdale · #13 (**permalink**) 12-27-2012, 2:09 PM

No. New firmware specifically for LSM (CQPSK) simulcast digital.

Ronaldski · #14 (**permalink**) 12-27-2012, 4:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rdale

Correct. If you can hear those CCs, you can hear Flint.

The reply as stated isnt clear as I stated about having to tune in the Saginaw tower to get genesee I felt the way the reply is that yes if I tune in saginaw or yes if I tune in the below freqs.

Again though they're using 868.3875 / 868.8875 are the cc and alternate - the same used for genesee county?

rdale · #15 (**permalink**) 12-27-2012, 10:59 PM

Those are the frequencies in Flint. You a probably too far to get them. They are not used in the Saginaw MPSCS system so that's where I am losing you. I don't get what you are asking.

Gadgetmann · #16 (**permalink**) 12-30-2012, 10:32 AM

So they(Flint PD and Flint FD) have both moved to the MPSCS, are they still dispatched by their own PSAP or have they combined PSAP's too?

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Originally Posted by tomroot

All this has been taken care of....the City of Flint PD and FFD have both now moved successfully to the MPSCS :-) ....and life is good :-) ....very good :-) ....and they will be rebanded along with the rest of GENCO, whenever that occurs....

w8fsm · #17 (**permalink**) 12-30-2012, 11:11 PM

They have there own PSAP still...

Ronaldski · #18 (**permalink**) 12-30-2012, 11:17 PM

Just for those people who dont know what is being talked about for psap...
is Public Safety Answering Point, the 911 center for an area.

Gadgetmann · #19 (**permalink**) 12-31-2012, 7:20 AM

Ok, thanks

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Originally Posted by w8fsm

They have there own PSAP still...

Old4rd · #20 (**permalink**) 12-31-2012, 9:04 AM

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Originally Posted by w8fsm

12981 is patched with 2415 still yes.. but if you scanner is an older one it doesn't follow the patch correctly.. IE.. pro-2096/96 scanners won't so you have to program both talkgroups in... the newer 106 and others will follow patches correctly.. So there is traffic on 12981...

I have a Pro 96. It only follows the Gen. Co. system correctly when it close to a Gen. Co. tower, such as in Davison, where it has logged Flint Fire dispatch correctly on their new system using Gen. Co. control frequency. South of town where I live I have logged FFD on their new system, but the Pro 96 just won't process Gen.Co. control frequency correctly and is very broken. That is why (for 8 years) I have been following Gen. Co. on the Holly & Columbiaville MPSCS towers, and now the latter tower operation appears to have been dropped from MPSCS? On the Holly tower I continue to receive FPD 911 on id: 2415, as well as most of the Genesee county system users. Are any of the other City of Flint operations simulcast on the Holly MPSCS system, or will they be? Or, will I need to purchase a new scanner capable of following Genesee Co. correctly, if Flint will not be simulcast on MPSCS? Thanks for any knowledgeable advice from anyone on this.