thread about online audio feeds hurting our hobby in Michigan.

[rdale]

Originally Posted by Ronaldski

I really think this needs to be moved to the open discussion area as it deals with an issue not just in MI, but the whole country and more. Plus its dealing with helping destroy our long time ability listening.

There are already 47 threads regarding it as a whole. This was established to discuss the problem (or lack thereof) in MI.

Rdale when 911 agencies one after another state they are encrypting due to online feeds..... what more evidence do you need !? ... GEEZUS! Wake up!

Well, I need a list of these agencies in Mi. So far it's still very short - one. You keep listing New Orleans even though you were shown that to be incorrect, so if you are spreading false rumors about one, and can't come up with a list in MI, isn't that better evidence?

[Ronaldski]

I told myself I would not comment anymore in here as so many are commenting on this, but I guess I have to, regreattably again.

47 threads ahhhh... nooo and if there is... that many that obviously would show there is deep concern about it.

And rdale if you would look from the time when I "initially" mentioned N.O. there were updates as to what areas were going encrypted for them.

Hmm cant come up with a list for MI ... Hmmm how many stinking times have I listed that wiki? duh!
Rdale see a pm to you.

I will say for anyone who keeps thinking feeds dont make agencies encrypt I'd hate to have you as a juror if overwhelming evidence point to a conviction or non conviction you guys wouldnt ever convict or non convict.

As per the feeds being an accesorry comment, I still stand by it. The crook uses the app as a 'tool' to do their evil deeds, just as say a brick through a window, a screwdriver to help open a door etc. the app is being used as a tool to assist them.

[rdale]

The Wiki shows one agency in MI that encrypted because of online streaming. I thought you mentioned that 911 agency after 911 agency was encrypting because of the feeds, and evidence shows that not to be true. They aren't even encrypting in the first place in the mass you imply.

[w8fsm]

I wasn't going to post.. Since it's a trolling... But having some where near 40 feeds up in and running now in michigan.. even before radio reference started all this feed madness.... I have had 2 issues that have came up in my 10 years of streaming feeds... One was when the county switched to mpscs... They thought there local dispatch talkgroup was only going to be heard by there units.. and when some officers went and talked badly about a dispatcher and the dispatcher was listening they wanted there " local " talkg group removed since i wasn't allowed to have it... Dispatch reminded them that they had the talkgroups anyways in the consoles so not that big of an issue...

I had one here a few months ago where the police captured a BnE subject with a smart phone listening to the radio traffic.... He was listening to the wrong feed.. but never the less..... There was talk of seeing what it would take to delay the feeds.. Not remove them... To many people count on them...

I have county PSAP's embeding my feeds directly on there sites telling people to go online and listen... You think if they hated feeds they would ask to embed the apps on there own web sites.... I think not...

If there is sensitive information it's put in CAD or on a tac channel... All the LEO's I talk with for work and personal say the same thing.... It's the people that don't know anything about communications that play the encryption card and blame it on scanners... TAC channels go encrypt... but Dispatch mutual aid channels can't.... We have issues as it is now with mutual aid/interop with oakland county... Patches don't work or take to long to setup.. or don't sound right because all the different vocoders... Then you go and throw encryption in the mix it fails even more... as you now have added another layer of exclusion to interop/mutual aid....

[Tryton]

I think a 5 - 10 Minute delay should only be used for Agency that request it. I understand both sides of this issue, and I think by working together with the Agency's we are streaming we can find a common ground and maybe stop all this 100% encryption.

[scannerfreak]

MI specific or not, we have a thread dedicated for this topic. The reason the thread was created, and in the forum it was created in, was due to threads exactly like this all over the site.

Please use that thread for discussion on this topic. Thanks..

The Official Thread: Live audio feeds, scanners, and... wait for it.. ENCRYPTION!