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Old 04-11-2006, 06:24 PM
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Default For all you MSP fans...

I know I know.. This isn't radio related but this I found on EBAY and YES it is real. This is the new Slick Top MSP Goose that will be terrorising the ditches and roadways of the state..

I think it's killer cool looking. My buddy does all the decal and lighting work on this car and a co/worker of his is making posters of this car and selling them on ebay.




Please let me know if you would like me to post more pics of any MSP cars I get from my buddy... If you don't then this will be the last MSP pic I post...
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Old 04-11-2006, 06:29 PM
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I know I know.. This isn't radio related but this I found on EBAY and YES it is real. This is the new Slick Top MSP Goose that will be terrorising the ditches and roadways of the state..

I think it's killer cool looking. My buddy does all the decal and lighting work on this car and a co/worker of his is making posters of this car and selling them on ebay.




Please let me know if you would like me to post more pics of any MSP cars I get from my buddy... If you don't then this will be the last MSP pic I post...
nice i want a poster for my bar
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This may be a simple question but why do they put that sign on the hood of the car. I know they have done it for a long time but what is the reasoning behind it?Looks good........ Hoser147
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I believe that years ago Troopers were taught to pull up beside the vehicle they were going to stop so that they could get an I D of the occupants. Therefore when the bubble came on the sign on the hood came on and it was supposed to make the patrol car more visible and let the offending occupants there was a patrol car beside them. Maybe someone else knows why they still use them. Probably because they still have them.
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One has to remember that is simply TRADITION that MSP follows and that is the way they like it. I would like to see them with more lights and full size lightbars but I have learned to accept the Bubble, which I now like.

I want a calendar too!! that is a sweet picture!



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Where do you find these posters on ebay?
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Old 04-11-2006, 07:25 PM
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Next time you roll up on a road closed, MSP car parked diagonally so you cant make out it's lettering, look at the hood. In a normal sized auto, it stares right at you .
I always suspected it was there to help identify them while closing a road/intersection.
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Yes, the MSP is heavy on tradition. Thier current uniform looks a lot like the one that was worn a century ago. Likewise, the limited car lighting and stop sign on the hood are all a part of that.

My guess though is that the "stop" sign is for road-blocks though... otherwise I don't know how'd you'd see 'em.

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I believe that years ago Troopers were taught to pull up beside the vehicle they were going to stop so that they could get an I D of the occupants. Therefore when the bubble came on the sign on the hood came on and it was supposed to make the patrol car more visible and let the offending occupants there was a patrol car beside them. Maybe someone else knows why they still use them. Probably because they still have them.
true it is called a side stop i heard when they started taking them off a few years ago people started to complain i guess they long for the good old days
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...EWA%3APIC&rd=1
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Yes, the MSP is heavy on tradition. Thier current uniform looks a lot like the one that was worn a century ago. Likewise, the limited car lighting and stop sign on the hood are all a part of that.

My guess though is that the "stop" sign is for road-blocks though... otherwise I don't know how'd you'd see 'em.

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The Michigan State Constabulary was established April 19, 1917 with a cavalry of 300 men.
On March 26, 1919, Public Act 26 reorganized the Constabulary as the permanent, peace-time Michigan State Police.
I always thought that the stop sign was for roadside truck inspections before we had xways.
ps. why no bubblegum machine in the poster?
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A little history:
The Michigan State Constabulary was established April 19, 1917 with a cavalry of 300 men.
On March 26, 1919, Public Act 26 reorganized the Constabulary as the permanent, peace-time Michigan State Police.
I always thought that the stop sign was for roadside truck inspections before we had xways.
ps. why no bubblegum machine in the poster?

The side stop was used to get a violater to pull over..

No beacon because this is a slick top. Each Post has anywhere from 1-4 slick tops. They are stealthier and are used for traffic, but aren't as popular as the semi-marked cars..
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The side stop was used to get a violater to pull over..

No beacon because this is a slick top. Each Post has anywhere from 1-4 slick tops. They are stealthier and are used for traffic, but aren't as popular as the semi-marked cars..
I thought semi-marked = slick top. So that's not the same? Here we call patrol cars without light bars slick tops.

Please do post more pictures! You need to post at least one with the traditional beacon!
Keep 'em coming!

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One has to remember that is simply TRADITION that MSP follows and that is the way they like it. I would like to see them with more lights and full size lightbars but I have learned to accept the Bubble, which I now like.

I want a calendar too!! that is a sweet picture!



I agree, it would be nice to see them with a full sized lightbar. The Bubble light does not make them look very professional, eventhough the troopers are highly skilled officers. That's a sweet looking push bumber wrapping aboud the entire front end! Does anyone know what type of blue paint is on the car?
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I agree, it would be nice to see them with a full sized lightbar. The Bubble light does not make them look very professional, eventhough the troopers are highly skilled officers. That's a sweet looking push bumber wrapping aboud the entire front end! Does anyone know what type of blue paint is on the car?

The Ford Paint code for the car is LM and the color used to be patented and only could be possesed by the State of Michigan. A lawsuit changed that in 2001..

I have several cans of this that I use to make my MSP diecast cars that I sell..

The colors offical name is Michigan Blue, but it used to be called Michigan State Police Blue..

Sorry for the size of the pics.

Below is only 2 pics of the many I have of the Semi-marked cars. They as per Michigan State Law are marked on the passanger side only. Any and ALL Police vehicles used to stop any motor vehicle must be marked with the words POLICE and the name of the department in no less then 2" block letters on the passanger side of the car. The semi-marked car is supposed to look more stealthy then a regular Patrol car. They are getting 25 6.2L Hemi Chargers soon..


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I am glad to see the big red bubble missing. I moved up here from Indiana and had never seen anything like it. Very nice looking, plenty of lights strategically placed. Highly visible.
Good job MSP!
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Pretty soon they're going to have to change the hood sign to read...

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DNR used to have a hoodfin and it said "stateSTOPofficer"
Sheriff ones used to say "sheriffSTOPsheriff"
Regular police said "policeSTOPpolice"

a handfull of departments had them up till the mid 80's and to this day some of Houghton County Sheriff's cars have them on their white VICS..

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I am glad to see the big red bubble missing. I moved up here from Indiana and had never seen anything like it. Very nice looking, plenty of lights strategically placed. Highly visible.
Good job MSP!
Indiana up until the early 1980s used a single light on the center of the roof just like the MSP. Some were red, but the majority were clear with red and white lights on the inside. Likewise, they had one red and clear with red lights in the back window of their patrol cars. Nonetheless, its about time the MSP decided to phase them out and go with full light bars.

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Indiana up until the early 1980s used a single light on the center of the roof just like the MSP. Some were red, but the majority were clear with red and white lights on the inside. Likewise, they had one red and clear with red lights in the back window of their patrol cars. Nonetheless, its about time the MSP decided to phase them out and go with full light bars.

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AHhhhhhhh but they aren't phazing out the bubble. Fullsize bars are nice but the one thing that you need to understand is this. In heavy snow and thick fog which we are prone to getting Strobes and LEDs are J-U-N-K.. The light strobes which reflects it up and out of the line of sight making them useless. The PAR 46 bulb by GE which is what is in the Unity RV26 beacon with spitfire lense is the same bulb and stregenth bulb used to light airport runways which can be seen in almost ZERO visability. LEDs may be bright but they suck in heavy snow and fog whereas the bubble cuts through the fog and snow like a hot knife through butter....

The only change to the bubble is this for this year. Unity isn't making the spitfire domes anymore. The spitfire has 2 clear slights in it that maginify the lights intensity. The new domes are solid red domes which the color isn't as red, its more orangish/red color instead of pinkish/red.. That is the only change.
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