Michigan Military Activity

[ssmontecarlo82]

Air Force plans changes at Selfridge, Battle Creek bases | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com

[Piston52Heavy]

Originally Posted by ssmontecarlo82

Air Force plans changes at Selfridge, Battle Creek bases | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com

Well that sucks!

[rdale]

Well, actually it's very good for Michigan...

[Piston52Heavy]

I heard the A-7s and F-4s are coming back! ;-)

[Piston52Heavy]

I'm glad tax dollars were spent building the "shelters" for the A-10s. Last time I checked, you can't park a KC-135 under one of those. What a waste of tax dollars!

[jsoergel]

Originally Posted by Piston52Heavy

I'm glad tax dollars were spent building the "shelters" for the A-10s. Last time I checked, you can't park a KC-135 under one of those. What a waste of tax dollars!

Those shelters can be disassembled and moved to another base. They're not very expensive to begin with...which is why they were put up instead of hangars.

[Piston52Heavy]

Originally Posted by jsoergel

Those shelters can be disassembled and moved to another base. They're not very expensive to begin with...which is why they were put up instead of hangars.

ok, that makes sense then.

[FoeHammer]

They will be using 4 more refuel AC & more drones ?
those are like the predator drone? What would they need those here for?
I assume the surrounding bases would still have our moa's active as far as monitoring goes ?

[drdispatch]

Originally Posted by FoeHammer

They will be using 4 more refuel AC & more drones ?
those are like the predator drone? What would they need those here for?
I assume the surrounding bases would still have our moa's active as far as monitoring goes ?

Selfridge will be getting 4 more KC-135's to replace the A-10's. The drones will not actually be based at Selfridge or Battle Creek, but they will be piloted from those two locations. The drones can be packed up, loaded on a cargo plane, & transported anywhere in the world to be flown in the combat theater. The only place they are being used in the U.S. (that I have heard) is along the border with Mexico - Border Patrol has several (unarmed) Predators for border surveillance, especially at night.

When the squadrons/wings are "stood up" at Battle Creek & Selfridge, I wouldn't be surprised if they brought in a Predator for the media to look at; but that will probably be the only time you will see them here; and it probably will be transported in, rather than flown.

As far as the MOA's go, lots of aircraft from other bases use those, so they will probably remain.

[instrumentphilip]

Ahhh okay controlled from here not stationed here for the UAVs. Okay thanks for the info guys , good stuff. I will miss listening to A10 Test flights :'( ..... I suppose I could still listen to those f-16s or f-18s (STING) out of Ohio that fly around. I always here them checking into Cleveland Center freqs around here. Any more info on the date that the switch over will take place?

[drdispatch]

There has been no timetable set for any of this. The base closure process is usually a long, drawn out affair, with much wailing & grinding of teeth (pardon the Biblical reference). The federal governement only has a couple of speeds, & ain't neither one of 'em "FAST".
Also remember that the federal government inspired the phrase "Close enough for government work", which means; "Measured with a micrometer, marked with chalk, & cut with an ax."

[instrumentphilip]

Roger Roger. Good thing they are not closing Selfridge then, hihi.

[ssmontecarlo82]

Selfridge head: Keep current levels of guardsmen | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com

[Ronaldski]

412.925 NAC 293 base was open, at times the coast guard Helo was ENC
Doing a search out on saginaw bay and river

[nodak1crdet3]

03-06-12
DEMON 12 & TEJAS 21 x 2, DEMON 11. (MI A-10C’s)
259.950 MTC clrnc to R-4201, 08:40am. TEJAS 21 clrnc to R-4201, 08:44am.
120.150 MTC twr, DEMON 12 cleared for take off rnwy 19 contact dep, 09:06am. TEJAS 21 line up & wait, cleared for take off rnwy 19 contact dep, 09:10am.
391.900 MTC dep, DEMON 12, 09:08am. TEJAS 21, 09:12am. DEMON 11, 09:26am.
290.425 Cleve.C. DEMON 12, 09:11am. TEJAS 21, 09:14am. DEMON 11, 09:28am.
326.000 TEJAS 21 A/A, 09:13am.
269.450 MN.C. DEMON 12, 09:23am. TEJAS 21, 20 miles in trail with DEMON 12, 09:23am. DEMON 11, 09:41am.
266.600 STEELGATE, DEMON 12, 09:31am.

UNK?
307.225 Indy.C. 08:52am.

DE CE 94 (ADW KC-135)
250.250 Ops, ETA, packs, security, 09:29am. 09:35am.

JENA 264 (FBI N612BK Cessna 206H)
121.300 DET twr, rnwy 15, based out of Virginia, multiple approaches, 09:37am.
125.150 DTW app, 10:50am.

STING 11 x ? (TOL F-16’s)
281.475 Cleve.C. 09:49pm.
317.625 Indy.C. 09:52am.

JEEP 21 (MI KC-135)
259.950 MTC clrnc, 09:56am.
119.600 MTC dep, 10:17am.
311.000 Ops, airborne @ 1514Z, 10:20am.
127.700 Cleve.C. 10:22am.
234.900 BLACK TALON, going to be refueling in STEELHEED, looking for airspace brief, 10:24am.

OKIE 82 (Tinker KC-135)
250.250 CONDOR Control. 45K Code 1, packs, airstairs, 10:01am.

DEMON 11 x 2 (MI A-10C’s)
290.425 Cleve.C. 10:12am.
318.200 MTC app, 10:13am.
273.000 DEMON 11 A/A, 10:15am.
361.250 DEMON Ops, 10:17am.
120.150 MTC twr, 10:17am. DEMON 12 landed. 11 went back to STEELHEAD.
290.425 Cleve.C. DEMON 11 (Single), 10:27am.
338.800 AR-STEELHEAD, DEMON 11 & JEEP 21, 10:31am. JEEP 21 heading for the PECK 343 @ 57 for the left hand turn. Heading dir Bad Axe, 10:33am.

UNK? 22
250.250 SINNER Control, as fragged, 10:30am.
132.425 MN.C. 10:33am.

TEJAS 21 x 2 (MI A-10C’s)
318.200 MTC app, 10:46am.
326.000 TEJAS 21 A/A, 10:47am.
120.150 MTC twr, 10:48am.

DEMON 11 (MI A-10C)
235.625 MBS app, 11:39am.
318.200 MTC app, 11:45am.

STEEL 71 w/ JUMBO 70
274.450 AR-220 Prime, 11:55am.

DE CE 95 (ADW KC-135)
348.400 APN Ops, ETA, fuel, airstairs, 11:58am.
132.425 MN.C. 12:00pm.
250.250 Ops. 29 packs 3 ? 12:01pm.
125.475 MN.C. 12:03pm.

N253SA MED Flight (Henry Ford Hosp / Superior Ambulance)
121.300 DET twr, off DMC heading north to Flint, 12:12pm.
151.040 PL 97.4 Superior Disp for AIR MED 2.

From a recording.
EPIC 71 (NC C-130)
250.250 FALCON Ops, EPIC 71, 12:33pm. 12:42pm. CONDOR Control, 20 mikes out download information when your ready, 12:42pm. Download message weak & readable, Condor Ops, EPIC 71 download is 247, 19 pallets, 141 hundred, 12:43pm. EPIC 71 thanks, 12:45pm.

CBP (Customs & Border Patrol)
136.375 HAMMER Ops, A/A, 12:36pm.

RULER 47 (MS C-17A )
250.250 FALCON Ops, this is RULER 47, 01:57pm. Yes Sir were a heavy 17 inbound for a RON stop. We are Alfa 1 status, we’ll be requesting parking, & some crew transportation, & download is as follows, 01:57pm. We have 49 duty packs, & 8 pieces of cargo that’s 7 singles & 1 rolling stock, for combined weight of approximately 22 & a half short tons, how copy. 01:58pm. 25 min from now, 01:58pm. Copy that going to the south end of Whisky ramp next to the C-130’s, is that correct? Yes Sir see you shortly, 02:01pm. Might we have a follow me as well for us when we get down there, 02:02pm.

RCH 8226
CONDOR Control, 15 min out. Like to pass a load message, 02:25pm. 17 pallets to offload a total 85000 lbs, 02:26pm. 100 lbs Haz? 02:26pm. Type 2.2, 2.19, 5.1. 02:26pm. 66 packs, there is a weapons currier on board, we have 73 available outbound seats, 14 crew, Alfa 1 going to request a crew bus, to get some food, as well as a bus for the passengers,& some stairs, how copy, 02:26pm. Do you know if the tower is operable (What! Have to love the Mil speak), 02:29pm. We got a NOTAM here that tower is not going to be open is that what you’all hear, 02:29pm.

RHINO 90 (Wright Patt C-17)
250.250 SINNER Ops, 03:33pm. CONDOR Control we’re trying to get SINNER Ops, we’re going into Alpena, 03:34pm. 15 or so min out were down loading 49 passengers 13 pallets, & we are req a parking spot, also we would like to do an engine running off load, 03:34pm.

DE CE 97 (ADW KC-135)
250.250 FALCON Ops, Approximately 30 min out, Alfa 1, expected landing fuel 40 thousand, how do you copy, 07:35pm. We also have 24 passengers requesting air stairs & trans for the crew & passengers, we also have the Vice Wing Commander on the jet with us, 07:36pm. CONDOR Ops, DC 97 just want to clarify we have 6 crew & 24 passengers so we’ll need separate transportation for each of those, how copy, Thanks 97 we’ll talk to you later, 07:37pm.
End recording.

N432UM (U of M Bell 430 Med flight)
123.025 dep Royal Oak Hosp, back to Ann Arbor, 10:46pm.
120.300 ARB twr, 10:58pm.

BOEING 315Tango Sierra
133.375 Cleve.C. 11:36am. Freq change 11:54pm.

[iMONITOR]

Selfridge cuts would affect whole state
Ron Dzwonkowski: Selfridge cuts would affect whole state | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

[Ronaldski]

Yalta 32 reporting hydraulic fluid low light, demon 11 - 273.0 reporting seeing orange liquid on observation, heading back home
All the well known freqs, I did here them refer to demon 11 as mid channel and mentioned about switch to 'their mid channel' didnt catch that one..

"recommend keep speed brake in the retract position"
"not declare an emergency" "but will declare one with selfridge"
"the stain doesnt look any bigger, but while trailing your aircraft I definitely see fluid leaking"
"reporting now no hydraulic pressure" "will have trouble slowing down upon landing"

[nodak1crdet3]

03-31-12
SODA 55 (KC-135)
348.400 Alpena (APN) CP, 30 min out, packs, 12:53pm. Fuel req, 12:56pm.

JESSIE 96 (C-130 MO)
236.400 KEYBOARD? APN CP, 01:09pm.
127.700 Cleve.C. 01:17pm.

PITT 09 (C-130)
340.025 CARBONATE Ops, PITT 09?, 01:37pm.
236.400 PITT 09, 01:44pm. Alpena CP PITT 09, 01:47pm.

348.400 Alpena CP, 55?, 04:42pm.

[nodak1crdet3]

04-04-12
UPSET 51, 52 (WI KC-135's), FURY 12, 13 (WM B-2's)
276.500 AR-321 & random AR, 01:36pm. FURY flight direct St Louis on request, 01:38pm. BTN 9 comm 1, 01:38pm. 13 stable ready. 13 cleared to contact, 01:41pm. Disconnect, 01:49pm.
133.875 Cleve.C. we’ll take Lansing for now, 01:44pm.
126.125 Chi.C. 01:47pm. 51 is going to depart the flight & go to GRR, 52 is going to continue random AR to Milwaukee, 02:00pm. FURY 12 is 10 mile trail, 02:02pm.
318.050 A/A Comm 1 BTN 9? 01:56pm.
126.125 Chi.C. FURY 12 flight, 02:10pm.
373.600 Chi.C. 02:15pm.
353.550 Chi.C. 02:22pm.

Some other stuff heard today.
04-04-12
163.675 CBP running a plate in the clear. Disp answered Encrypted, 01:34am. Another plate check, 03:11am.

JEEP 31 (MI KC-135)
348.675 Cleve.C. radio checks, 10:17am.

DEMON 11 x 4 (MI A-10’s)
361.250 DEMON Ops, DEMON 14, 1 is Code 1. 2 is code 3 HUD EAC & SB, BDU‘s & rounds. 3 is code 1 6 BDU 150 rounds. 4 is Code 1, 5 BDU’s, 150 rounds. 10:46am.
318.200 MTC ops, 10:47am.
120.150 MTC twr, rnwy 19, 10:48am.

UNK?
340.025 CARBONATE Ops, 47 packs 2 pallets, & upload fuel, 10:52am.

N878BC (Robinson R-44 II helo)
122.700 New Hudson traffic, 11:00am. Crossing the east end of the field about a mile & a half out, 11:02am.

YALTA 31 (Single MI A-10)
361.250 DEMON Ops, Code 1 6 BDU’s 80 rounds of 30 Mike Mike, 11:06am.
318.200 MTC app, 11:08am.
120.150 MTC twr, 11:10am.

170.950 FED P-25 digital, in the clear, 11:10am. & 01:08pm. (No NAC capable radio's)

SIERRA 42Alfa (CBP helo)
122.800 Romeo traffic, 11:31am. Landing 36 full stop Romeo, 11:38am.
136.375 CBP
119.600 MTC app, 11:47am.
120.150 MTC twr, 11:56am.

CG AUX AIR 20355 (Cessna 172/G)
119.600 MTC dep.
127.500 DTW app, going back to Willow Run, 11:50am.
157.150 CG CH 23 Alfa, 11:56am.

STING 31 x 2 (TOL F-16's)
281.425 Cleve.C. 12:46pm. Direct Lansing STING 31, 12:48pm.
139.625 V 06 A/A, pointing out towns, 12:51pm.
348.750 Cleve.C. HERSEY MOA (Mid Michigan), 12:55pm.
338.300 MN.C. airspace brief, 01:03pm. Minnie is having trouble hearing STING. I have him loud & clear.
385.900 HERSEY MOA TAC, 01:05pm.

406.875 P-25 Digital, FED Building roll call, 01:00pm. (No NAC capable radio's)

HAPPY 51 (IL KC-135), w/ ? 33
274.450 AR-220 Prime, 01:00pm. Cleared to contact, 01:09pm. Disconnect, 01:12pm. 33 is stable ready, cleared to contact, 01:14pm. End AR request. Looking for direct HAR, 01:20pm. 126th ARW, 63-7981 33 tail # 07-7174, 01:22pm. Cleared to contact, 01:23pm.
127.900 Cleve.C. 01:02pm.
120.775 Cleve.C. 01:12pm.
126.725 Cleve.C. 01:24pm.

CG 6532 (MH-65C)
412.925 P-25 Dig, Ops check, 01:24pm.
121.300 DET twr.
123.000 ONZ traffic, 01:25pm.

GOODYEAR N3A Blimp for opening day Tigers Thursday.
123.000 Gross Ill traffic (ONZ), 01:26pm.

DEMON 11 x 2 (MI A-10's)
391.900 MTC dep.
290.425 Cleve.C. 01:30pm.
273.000 DEMON A/A, 01:30pm.

TEJAS 21 x 2 (MI A-10's)
391.900 MTC dep, 01:31pm.
290.425 Cleve.C. 01:34pm.
326.000 TEJAS A/A, 2 your cleared Bore sight (Align the Maverick), Holy good visibility Batman, 01:32pm.

REDBIRD TV chopper.
450.4125 PL 141.3, LMS Base. Something going on around 7 Mile & Gratiot, 02:50pm. I can see REDBIRD circling from my roof to the east.

[nodak1crdet3]

DEMON 11 x 4 (MI A-10's)
120.150 MTC twr, cleared for take off, 12:05pm.
391.900 MTC dep, 12:07pm.
251.900 Flyby A/A, & A/G, 12:10pm.

N3A (Goodyear Blimp)
151.625 GOODYEAR Blimp A/G, 11:49am.
121.300 DET twr, @ 1900 ft, heading for Comerica Park, 12:14pm.
469.500 Goodyear Blimp to TV crews. 15 min out, 12:19pm.

TEJAS 21 x 2 (MI A-10's)
391.900 MTC dep, 12:14pm.
290.425 Cleve.C. 12:16pm.