Jackson County has rebanded

nexus · #1 (**permalink**) 07-31-2009, 08:20 PM

This is just to inform everyone that Jackson County TRS has finally completed its REBANDING. I found out the other day when my BCD996 wouldn't pick up anything, but it was receiving the CC just fine. That's because I wasn't using CC MODE, I was just letting the scanner scan all 12 known site frequencies which are now obsolete.

As soon as I reconfigured my system for CC MODE scan it started receiving traffic again on the new freqs. So far these are the ones I'm seeing come up when there is traffic. I'm still seeing a CC of 856.7375

855.7625
856.3625
856.0875

milf · #2 (**permalink**) 07-31-2009, 10:07 PM

Good catch will update the TRS tonight with the listed FCC E type listing and your CC listing

milf · #3 (**permalink**) 07-31-2009, 10:39 PM

Those three voice chans must be temporary use only until completion.. they are NOT on ANY FCC license pre or post rebanding. All the licensed YE freqs are now updated with the three site simulcast and the Moss Point sites all accurate as for current liscensing.

mcems79 · #4 (**permalink**) 08-02-2009, 11:58 AM

i put all the new freq's for the simulcast syatem and im not picking up anything, also on the moss point site im getting the cc and only voice on one freq can you guys tell me what im doing wrong ? thank's

milf · #5 (**permalink**) 08-02-2009, 01:56 PM

They are still finishing up the reband, and have not fully got the system completely setup in all the radios thus the issues. they are using a set of temporary freqs for voice chans until the reband is complete. Use CC only for the Moss P site and during the next few weeks keep trying all the freqs on both sites til the simulcast site shows a CC again and the programming is completed. Once they finish that up then all the listed freqs should work just fine. What kind of scanner are you using?

nexus · #6 (**permalink**) 08-04-2009, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mcems79

i put all the new freq's for the simulcast syatem and im not picking up anything, also on the moss point site im getting the cc and only voice on one freq can you guys tell me what im doing wrong ? thank's

If you're using a Uniden scanner or a scanner that can do CONTROL CHANNEL ONLY mode, use that. Go into your programmed system and change it to c-channel only and let the control channel assign the proper voice frequency.

Of course you'll also need to make sure you're using the most up to date firmware for your scanner so that it will work on a REBANDED system.

I had one scanner that wasn't using CC mode, it was just scanning all 12 known freqs. but when these new freqs popped up I wouldn't hear anything, even though the scanner was locked into the control channel just fine, sounds like the same thing you're experiencing.

So instead of having all of the freqs programmed, just program the control channel freq and make it c-channel mode only. You should start to hear traffic again.

BTW, what kind of scanner are you using?

nexus · #7 (**permalink**) 08-04-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by milf

Those three voice chans must be temporary use only until completion.. they are NOT on ANY FCC license pre or post rebanding. All the licensed YE freqs are now updated with the three site simulcast and the Moss Point sites all accurate as for current liscensing.

I'm unsure... I haven't asked my friend at motorola who is managing the rebanding about it. I just know that those are the freqs popping up when ever there is voice traffic heard.

Really the best thing for people to do right now is make sure their scanner has the firmware update for rebanding and just set it to control channel only.

nexus · #8 (**permalink**) 08-04-2009, 03:09 PM

The control channel for Jackson County changed today, its now 855.3125 MHz.

milf · #9 (**permalink**) 08-04-2009, 06:00 PM

Stranger and stranger... now a cc thats not lic'ed LOL... Keep us informed Nexus.

So far-
856.7375 CC
855.3125 CC
855.7625 VC
856.3625 VC
856.0875 VC

And only one lic'ed freq.... Wierd how that works.... What is the SYSID showing in manual mode?

mcems79 · #10 (**permalink**) 08-06-2009, 03:14 PM

im using a radio shack pro-2052

milf · #11 (**permalink**) 08-06-2009, 03:24 PM

Your scanner will NOT do rebanded systems. The PRO-2052 and its sister the PRO-94 are not capable of retuning the bandplan for rebanded TRS's. The rebanded conventional nationwide you can still recieve... But trunked rebanded systems isn't happening. Not to mention that your unable to listen to any digital talkgroups.

mcems79 · #12 (**permalink**) 08-06-2009, 06:17 PM

what type of scanner do you suggest at a decent price ?

milf · #13 (**permalink**) 08-06-2009, 06:48 PM

See your PM,,... As for a decent price??? You can get an PRO-96/2096 on ebay for under $300.00 But to properly use it on rebanded systems you have to dl either ARC96, or Win96 and pay for registration for the full functions. For the newer scanners you will spend anywhere from $400.00 up to $500.00 and still need the software packages from Software for RadioShack PRO-series (PRO-92, 93, 95, 96, 97, 99, 163, 164, 106, 197) and GRE PSR-series (PSR-500, 600, 300, 400) scanners or Butel Software

And that will run you around $30.00 to register for full abilities.

nexus · #14 (**permalink**) 08-08-2009, 03:05 AM

If you want to keep with the PRO style scanners I would suggest the GRE PSR-500. Unless you want to buy local and then you can get the most recent digital scanner from radio shack which is made by GRE. I use all Uniden radios. My feed which will allow you to continue to listen to Jackson County is using a Uniden BCD-396T handheld, and in my car I have a Uniden BCD-996 mobile with the remote head. If you ever want to do remotehead installations go with the Uniden.

Check around on the internet you can usually find some good deals, also now that Uniden is releasing a newer version with more features, those two models I listed might begin to find themselves being advertised for sale on ebay or here in rr.com just check around there are deals to be found.

nexus · #15 (**permalink**) 08-29-2009, 07:12 PM

SysID is showing 2A01h-0002

VC: 854.0375 just popped up

KE5TLF · #16 (**permalink**) 09-02-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by milf

Stranger and stranger... now a cc thats not lic'ed LOL... Keep us informed Nexus.

So far-
856.7375 CC
855.3125 CC
855.7625 VC
856.3625 VC
856.0875 VC

And only one lic'ed freq.... Wierd how that works.... What is the SYSID showing in manual mode?

Seem to all be on both the temp license (WQKF814):
ULS License - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked License - WQKF814 - JACKSON, COUNTY OF - Frequencies Summary

and the permanent license too(WNSS282)
ULS License - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked License - WNSS282 - JACKSON, COUNTY OF - Frequencies Summary

Those are the replacement freqs for the ones Southern Linc took. Odd thing is the freqs given to Linc (chans. 7-12) are still on both licenses. ( surely that will be changed soon though)
ULS Application - 0003939519 - Southern Communications Services, Inc d/b/a Southern LINC - Administration
https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsEntry/a...Ind=applAttach (entered 8/17/09)

The "Moss Point" entry in the database is incomplete and is what the county simulcast system is using presently. If it weren't there would be no way nexus would be receiving it in Harrison County.

There's nothing but dead air on all the freqs listed for WQAD258. Also there's a bunch of freqs on that license in new ESMR band too. That can't be a rebanded license can it? Is it possible some agency's could be getting ESMR services on this license maybe?

This is exactly how Chevron's rebanding went down 3 years ago. Linc got their 5-6 freqs, CVX got replacements and it was over with in a week. (btw the DB hasn't been updated since this happened either)

I say rebanding is also over and done with for the JC TRS. (great news for those with non-rebandable scanner)

On the subject of the WQKF814 license, I've heard it said that there was going to be a tower added to the system in this area due to poor coverage and this may be what this is all about.

milf · #17 (**permalink**) 09-03-2009, 12:14 AM

From start to finish took Warren County four months to get everything redone completely. It took only a month to reband the Tunica TRS.... I believe it took only a month for the Rankin TRS. Not sure how long it took completely for Forrest County. Once all sites are showing full usage and you guys log CC's etc on ALL the sites we will know its done. Next in the wave for MS- CMSRTRS, Lee County, MSU/OC..MDOC, and a couple of others. So they may be adding the extra site as well as rebanding.... We will know most likely within a few weeks. Once you guys get aread on every active site, submit it and I will get the db set right to stop any confusion in the downloading arena.

The time frame depends on the following... Consoles, mobiles, HT's, repeatersand any technical unforseens. Each console, mobile, HT, and repeater site has to be worked on. So if they are building out a new site and rebanding simultaneously it would slow the process.

milf · #18 (**permalink**) 09-03-2009, 04:07 PM

OK updated the updated lic.. They did add a lot from last time I looked at it like a month ago. Oh BTW.. whats the Connect Tone for this bad boy????

KE5TLF · #19 (**permalink**) 09-03-2009, 10:46 PM

Ok just took a crash course in T88 and got you this. CT is 76.76 Hz, Alt CC's are 855.3125 and 854.6375.

milf · #20 (**permalink**) 09-03-2009, 11:10 PM

OK You ROCK! Now if the simulcast sites would go active for us... LOL
After you get tired of the JC TRS and MSWIN, I may have to recruit you to go hunting Entergy sites.... WEG... We are verifying that it is indeed three separate Smartzones not an OmniLink system, and once thats done will split it up into Entergy Arkansas, Entergy MS/TN, and Entergy LA/TX.... They are linked by pre ol technology and have maybe three total shared tg's.... The system used to be four or five systems but were reconfigured into 3 a few years ago... I hope to get this figured out before they upgrade to a digital system in the next few years LOL. The get to redo it all! Anyway, thanks for all the help guys!