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Old 12-21-2012, 10:24 PM
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Do you guys see prices coming down on these anytime soon. Near 2 thousand dollars for a screenless model new is crazy expensive.

I just within the year purchased a HT 1250 for personal use on the fireground and for use as a home scanner and I feel like it's already outdated.

Granted we just switched to narrow banding but I guess digital will be shortly also and the HT1250 will be a paper weight.
When will private sale of these be available from motorla?
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:48 PM
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Hard to say. Homeland defense grants are drying up which means less agencies will have the financial ability to purchase without bonding, taxing or seeking other revenue streams. With that being said, if demand for them becomes elastic the price point will have to change. If you're only looking for a single band APX with limited features it might start to compete with the1500/2500 series XTS line in the coming months. I'm sure Motorola wants to entice customers into buying the new TDMA compliant radios to be used with the rollout of P25 GTR8000 radios with two slots per repeater
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My two cents on this radio, is that it's really only a dual-band, not multi-band. They would have done well to include all bands, double the channel capacity, or perhaps use flash memory to allow for almost unlimited capacity (if they don't already). It would be smart to have BOTH APCO-P25 and Astro25 in the same radio. For all the money these things cost, I'd like to see everything that was ever available on a radio, be software defined on an APX...all the ANI formats, MDC, MODAT, etc.

Adding DMR/MotoTRBO would be handy to have for the sake of interoperability. I also thought the double-sided design was goofy. I guess ergonomics and multi-colored housings are top priority, not functionality.

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If there is more than one, then its multiple

Um... APCO25, P25, ASTRO25 = same thing (different names).

No one uses MODAT anymore...that has been essentially dead since the MX radios. It was carried over to the Astro Saber (only) for LAPD and that too died when they went to digital.

DMR/TRBO wasn't initally meant for public safety. Same with LTR. Some places bought into it due to cost, but its still in the very minority of users overall (in public safety).

FWIW, APX was to have TRBO support (as stated by some Moto people a couple of years ago) but I doubt that would happen.

My APX has a capcity of 2000 . How many more channels do you really need?
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Still keeping my fingers crossed for TRBO. As far as channel capacity goes, I've filled mine up with as many agencies as I can think of and haven't run out of space yet.
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Same here. I'm still waiting for the GPS mapping. Mike, I met a common aquantience (three times removed) from Florida one day whose company was working on GPS mapping. IIRC, they were having issues getting certain information from mother M as they kept changing FW which would screw up what they were doing.

My guess is that that company threw in the towel. GPS will be for AVL location only as best as I can tell.

The video camera speaker mic also seems to suck according to comments from guys who say it at APCO.
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That's a damn shame. I was excited to see what sort of functionality would come about.

I had an idea: When an officer's emergency trigger is activated, his location would show up on responding officer's radios in the form of a heading arrow and distance.
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