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Old 11-09-2012, 10:13 AM
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Default Minitor V No 12.5 khz UHF

I have tried to search Google and even tried /\/\ latest software.

Am I missing something?

Can't get a .6375 or .6125 in the pager.

It says "invalid spur?

Only 25khz channel tuning on Minitor V? I sure hope not.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:31 AM
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If you look in the PPS software help file under "Spur", it lists quite a few invalid frequencies. Since you didn't provide the whole frequency, it's impossible to tell if they are on the forbidden list, but you can look for yourself. Open the help file and look under "Spur" in the contents. When you click on "Spur" the list for all the different bands will show up.
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I have tried to search Google and even tried /\/\ latest software.

Am I missing something?

Can't get a .6375 or .6125 in the pager.

It says "invalid spur?

Only 25khz channel tuning on Minitor V? I sure hope not.
Make sure you have Pager Firmware Version 3.0 installed in the pager... Also, you must make sure you are using Motorola Minitor V PPS is version 1.7.2 (Released 09/28/2007).

There is not reason those frequencies shouldn't work in your Minitor V pagers, unless the above criteria has not been met.
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my V has an issue when i select narrow for a freq on monitor it opens squelch.
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my V has an issue when i select narrow for a freq on monitor it opens squelch.
Check you're firmware revision; Motorola released the update back in 2008 to correct a whole list of issues. Version 3.0 is the latest firmware for these pagers and can be updated easily by any user with the PPS software and cradle. Also, make sure you're using the latest PPS as this will modify your code plug with the newer firmware.

The latest Motorola Minitor PPS can be downloaded here: http://www.motorola.com/Business/US-...EN#support_tab
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Check you're firmware revision; Motorola released the update back in 2008 to correct a whole list of issues. Version 3.0 is the latest firmware for these pagers and can be updated easily by any user with the PPS software and cradle. Also, make sure you're using the latest PPS as this will modify your code plug with the newer firmware.
Thanks much, I will report back, I could find nothing on this with Google.

Great news!
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Thanks much, I will report back, I could find nothing on this with Google.

Great news!
The link I provided is just for the PPS and NOT the firmware. If you do not have firmware 3.0; you will need to obtain a copy; but you can read and write pagers with the latest PPS without issue.

Good luck, I'll be monitoring the thread.
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W2GLD maybe you can answer a question for me, too. None of my department pagers report their firmware through the PPS (yes, it's the latest version). All report it as 0.00 whether they were manufactured 5 years ago, or last month. Any ideas? Thanks.
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If you look in the PPS software help file under "Spur", it lists quite a few invalid frequencies. Since you didn't provide the whole frequency, it's impossible to tell if they are on the forbidden list, but you can look for yourself. Open the help file and look under "Spur" in the contents. When you click on "Spur" the list for all the different bands will show up.
Yes firmware 3.0 S/W 1.72.I never knew of the "forbidden list".

460.6375 is on the help file as a spur, that really bad.

If anyone knows or can suggest a workaround let me know.

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W2GLD maybe you can answer a question for me, too. None of my department pagers report their firmware through the PPS (yes, it's the latest version). All report it as 0.00 whether they were manufactured 5 years ago, or last month. Any ideas? Thanks.
The firmware only shows up in the PPS when you actually read the pager and it's connected to the cradle; if you are simply viewing a codeplug without the pager attached it will display "Pager Firmware Version: 0.00"

Again, you should make sure you are using the latest PPS to read and write these pagers as there were numerous issues with older releases. One reason Motorola made the PPS publicly available for free download to it's customers.

As a preventive maintenance issue; when servicing all of you're pagers for narrowband compliance, it would be a good time to make sure they are all running the latest firmware and you should ONLY use the latest PPS; then read and write each pager to insure the codeplugs versions are updated.

When a pager is sent into the depot, this process happens automatically, but Motorola is expecting it's users to be utilizing the most recent releases of their software. That said, 90% of users issues are solved with simple firmware and software updates.

I hope that helps...

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Thanks, I don't have the cradle with me, but I'll check what you said this weekend. Do you have a link to the latest firmware?
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Yes firmware 3.0 S/W 1.72.I never knew of the "forbidden list".

460.6375 is on the help file as a spur, that really bad.

If anyone knows or can suggest a workaround let me know.

Thank-you all.
If you found that in print on some Motorola document, the only choice you have is to call them for direction; however, since it was listed in the pre-sales documentation, you're likely screwed... But, it's still worth a call to Motorola Customer Support.

Here's a complete list of frequencies that are not allowed for Low Band, VHF, and UHF:

38.805 143.1875 167.550 406.000 422.400 456.375 459.3075 468.9375 477.8875 486.4125 497.575 511.875
38.405 144.975 167.5625 406.2875 424.1875 456.3875 459.9875 469.500 479.6625 486.425 499.200 511.8875
39.365 146.6125 168.2375 406.400 425.975 456.400 460.6375 469.625 479.675 486.750 499.350
39.385 146.7625 168.250 408.075 425.9875 456.4125 460.675 469.700 480.000 486.825 499.3625
41.165 148.550 170.025 408.0875 427.7625 456.425 460.800 470.725 480.0125 486.8375 501.1375
42.945 148.5625 170.0375 409.8625 427.775 456.4375 461.775 472.500 481.4625 488.6125 501.150
42.965 150.3375 171.8125 409.875 429.550 456.450 463.5625 472.5125 483.2375 488.625 502.9375
44.745 150.350 171.825 411.650 429.5625 456.4625 464.000 472.525 483.250 489.9875 504.725
45.085 159.2875 173.6125 411.6625 451.025 456.475 465.350 473.600 483.2625 490.000 504.7375
46.525 159.300 415.2375 451.0375 456.4875 466.9875 474.2875 483.700 490.4125 505.600
46.545 161.075 417.025 452.825 456.500 467.1375 474.300 485.0375 492.200 506.5125
48.325 161.0875 418.8125 454.6125 456.5125 467.150 474.3125 485.050 493.9875 506.525
162.875 418.825 454.625 456.525 468.650 476.0875 485.9375 949.000 508.300
164.6625 420.600 456.350 458.1875 468.925 476.100 486.1875 495.775 508.1325
166.450 420.6125 456.3625 458.200 468.925 477.875 486.400 497.5625 510.100
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If you found that in print on some Motorola document, the only choice you have is to call them for direction; however, since it was listed in the pre-sales documentation, you're likely screwed... But, it's still worth a call to Motorola Customer Support.

The radio creates spurs or birdies on this channel as other have noted
I talked with motorola support and they do not offer a "special" order.

Only offered "SP" on VHF.

Check those forbidden channels before getting a Minitor V, no workaround.
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