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12-31-2012, 8:43 AM
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Originally Posted by gatekeep
Agree. Either that, or the Tx Power softpots are zeroed or the finals are removed.
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Nope.... He states that it works on conventional channels.
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12-31-2012, 11:59 AM
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Yes I am from Ontario and I am talking about the Bell Fleetnet System.
And yes Mike is right, it is not transmitting on any of the Input Freq's. Otherwise I would be seeing it (the Radio ID) on my Trunk88 screen everytime I turn it on. So it is still transmitting to the system, that is why the red light is blinking but not transmitting it through the input Control Channel Freq's. Since in the software all the Control Channel Freq's are set to RX only, there is no TX to them.
And yes this radio also works on conventional channels. I use it for both, to either monitor our VHF Bell Fleetnet Trunking System, or to listen and transmit on normal VHF Conventional channels.
So hopefully this helps explain everything now.
Thanks.
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12-31-2012, 3:11 PM
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Originally Posted by coolguy
Yes I am from Ontario and I am talking about the Bell Fleetnet System.
And yes Mike is right, it is not transmitting on any of the Input Freq's. Otherwise I would be seeing it (the Radio ID) on my Trunk88 screen everytime I turn it on. So it is still transmitting to the system, that is why the red light is blinking but not transmitting it through the input Control Channel Freq's. Since in the software all the Control Channel Freq's are set to RX only, there is no TX to them.
And yes this radio also works on conventional channels. I use it for both, to either monitor our VHF Bell Fleetnet Trunking System, or to listen and transmit on normal VHF Conventional channels.
So hopefully this helps explain everything now.
Thanks.
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I don't think you get it. If your radio was not programmed by a system manager or one of their technicians your radios red led should not be blinking when you monitor the trunked system. It should not be "still transmitting to the system" as you stated above or ever transmiting at all while monitoring a trunked system. Period end of story. The ONLY exception to this would be if the radio was programmed by an authorized person for RX only on the system if that is even possible.
I don't think I'm going out on a limb here saying that you are totally clueless. Good luck with your radio. I'll be waiting the new thread you create when you turn your radio on and it does nothing. 
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12-31-2012, 7:03 PM
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Ok. There will be no new thread and this will be my last reply to this post I started.
Yes I agree the red light shouldn't be blinking. But I am not worried about it doing that.
Yes I am enjoying this radio since I got it. And like I said earlier, This radio was programmed like the way it is now, a long time ago. And all this time after it has been on and I have been monitoring our Trunking System with it, there has been no problems and no one saying anything or coming to try and find out who has this radio or trying to make it non-usable. If that was the case, this would of happened a long time ago not too long after it was programmed and turned on and started to use it to monitor our system.
So there will be no more new threads about that. And once again this is my last reply to this post I started.
Thanks again.
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01-16-2013, 2:15 AM
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When I change talkgroups on my XTS3000 on a SmartZone system, the radio will sit silent on the channel for about 2 full seconds before the red light comes on and it starts pinging the various sites to find out what to trunk on. It's a very annoying aspect of SmartZone systems, but the affiliation process can be rushed by simply pressing the PTT as soon as you change the channel, allowing instant reception.
I also found that if you initiate scanning a SmartZone trunked system FROM a conventional channel, it will NEVER attempt auto-affiliation.
Paul
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01-16-2013, 8:38 AM
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That is one of the major tricks to the non-affiliate scan method. To park the radio on a conventional channel with that channel straped to a scan list that contains the TG's you want to scan. Its not that hard to do. You could also change the coverage type on these radios to something that doesnt require auto affiliate, anything but smartzone will do. Your radio sounds like its programmed to affilate. I hope you are on the system legit.
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01-16-2013, 8:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Anderegg
It's a very annoying aspect of SmartZone systems, but the affiliation process can be rushed by simply pressing the PTT as soon as you change the channel, allowing instant reception.
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I sure as hell hope you are not doing the bold part on public safety TGs. 
You do this on the system I help manage and your radio will be inhibited
until you come in for a training session on proper radio usage.
Probably the worst idea I have ever heard of.
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01-16-2013, 9:12 AM
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I wonder if the guy who told me there was no way I could inhibit his Astro Spectra because it didn't affiliate ever got it working again. Here is a free tip, when you duplicate a unit number on a system don't steal the system administrator's.
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01-17-2013, 8:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jhooten
I wonder if the guy who told me there was no way I could inhibit his Astro Spectra because it didn't affiliate ever got it working again. Here is a free tip, when you duplicate a unit number on a system don't steal the system administrator's.
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My radios don't affiliate and I would bet the farm you could not inhibit any of them. A radio ID is pointless if non-affiliate scan is done correctly. Obviously the folks you are dealing with don't know what their doing.
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01-17-2013, 7:52 PM
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The idiot in question used the unit ID of my radio. Does that give you a clue as to his skill level?
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01-17-2013, 7:59 PM
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ID 0001? :-D
Paul
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