New Releases of Commercial and Professional CPS

[SteveC0625]

They have only been up on MOL for a day or two:

Commercial Series CPS_NA_R05.17

Professional Series_CPS_R06.12.08

Be aware! These releases specifically address 12.5 Khz. spacing. If I understand the release notes correctly, these versions will not allow 20.0 or 25.0 KHz spacing. Once you have programmed a radio using these latest versions, there's no going back.

I am discovering that it might be advantageous to have a receive only channel at 25 KHz in our radios on at least one of the primary EMS frequencies in our area. We're not sure that the county had the EMS base radios properly narrowbanded because they sound like crap now. The fire channels which are the same model base radios sound just fine on the same mobiles, portables, and pagers. (EMS is a bit of an orphan child up here, it seems.)

If I were to install these latest versions, I don't think I would be able to retain a 25 Khz receive only channel in the radios. Right now that might not be a wise move. Others may want to consider this before upgrading.

[W2GLD]

Using these CPS releases WILL lock your radios codeplug into 12.5 kHz. mode on all channels... It is suggested that, if required to retain 25.0 kHz. wide FM channels, that you NOT use these releases or any firmware released after 06/2012...

[Forts]

Is there some sort of entitlement key you can get to unlock wideband, like you can with the MotoTRBO CPS?

[Git-R-Done]

Originally Posted by Forts

Is there some sort of entitlement key you can get to unlock wideband, like you can with the MotoTRBO CPS?

Yes, I have one I had to go through Motorola Solutions support to receive one.

[SteveC0625]

Originally Posted by Forts

Is there some sort of entitlement key you can get to unlock wideband, like you can with the MotoTRBO CPS?

They say this in the release notes:

Support 12.5 kHz only. 20/25 kHz Channel Bandwidth capability is available via application features. Please contact Motorola customer service for details.

[Forts]

Good to know. Thanks guys!

[Wyandotte]

As others have said already, before you upgrade, stop and ask yourself if you really need to?
Why upgrade, and disable the ability to maintain 25 Khz, just to have the latest and greatest?

[Thunderknight]

Does this affect the whole frequency range, or are certain ranges/services carved out? E.g. Will the ham bands, marine, etc still work as wide band?
I think the APX CPS had carved out ranges...?

[Git-R-Done]

Originally Posted by Thunderknight

Does this affect the whole frequency range, or are certain ranges/services carved out? E.g. Will the ham bands, marine, etc still work as wide band?
I think the APX CPS had carved out ranges...?

If you upgraded to the newest firmware for the XPR radios then you'll need to contact Motorola Solutions support for a entitlement key so you can get back the 25kz option. Once you upgraded the firmware to your radio it'll only have the 12kz option only.

[davidzimmerman]

that can be bad if you use your radio on ham frequencys and public safety frequencys.

[mancow]

What about the wideband weather channels?

These people are morons. Apparently they believe they ARE the FCC.

[MTS2000des]

Keep this in mind if you plan on sending any radio into the depot for flat rate or warranty repair after the first of the year. It WILL get the new firmware and you will have to go through the red tape of getting an entitlement ID. Really sucks for all those people without valid subscriptions for their respective CPS. They'll be SOL.

[stevejacobson]

Originally Posted by mancow

What about the wideband weather channels?

These people are morons. Apparently they believe they ARE the FCC.

It's not just Motorola. Kenwood is doing the same thing

[JRayfield]

If a person has a copy of the new 8.5 CPS, and they don't have a valid subscription, then it's highly likely that they have a an illegal copy of the CPS. If they obtained the new CPS immediately after release (which was very recent), with a valid subscription, and then their subscription expired between then and now, I suspect that Motorola Solutions will still allow them to get the entitlement ID for the 25 khz option.

John Rayfield, Jr. CETma

Originally Posted by MTS2000des

Keep this in mind if you plan on sending any radio into the depot for flat rate or warranty repair after the first of the year. It WILL get the new firmware and you will have to go through the red tape of getting an entitlement ID. Really sucks for all those people without valid subscriptions for their respective CPS. They'll be SOL.

[kb0uxv]

Does the new CPS allow drag and drops?

[Skypilot007]

Originally Posted by kb0uxv

Does the new CPS allow drag and drops?

Imagine that. Drag and drop on pro series CPS.

This narrowbanding mandate and locking these commercial rigs to it is just another way the manfactorers are discourging using these rigs for amateur use. I'll be not using this new CPS for sure. Thanks for the heads up.

[SteveC0625]

Short update:

Unrequested, a Motorola disk with the new revision Pro Series CPS showed up in today's mail. Part number is HVN9025AB.

I suspect a new disk for the Comm Series will appear shortly, too.

[cabletech]

Since CPS is a generic term for the software, what series of raadios is this for?

[SteveC0625]

Originally Posted by cabletech

Since CPS is a generic term for the software, what series of raadios is this for?

My original post said both Professional Series and Commercial Series.

My post from 17:15 today (#17) says Pro Series HVN9025AB.

[Git-R-Done]

Originally Posted by cabletech

Since CPS is a generic term for the software, what series of raadios is this for?

Mostly XTS & XPR and etc.