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Old 01-08-2013, 9:16 AM
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I recently purchased a xpr 6550. My city operates numerous trunked trbo systems. 3 all together. I was just wondering if you can listen to more than one trbo system on one radio? I have all the informatin easily accessible to monitor all systems.
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That's a good question? Forgive me I have a question as well how much does one of these turbo walkie talkies cost? They told us that they go for about $1300.00 and if we loose one we get suspended for two days! My retort would be why do we need digital encrypted radios for day to day operations at a sewerage plant?! The Newark police uses UHF and they have more traffic over the airwaves than we do.
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That's a good question? Forgive me I have a question as well how much does one of these turbo walkie talkies cost? They told us that they go for about $1300.00 and if we loose one we get suspended for two days! My retort would be why do we need digital encrypted radios for day to day operations at a sewerage plant?! The Newark police uses UHF and they have more traffic over the airwaves than we do.
Depends on which model you purchase and where you buy it from. eBay is the best bet to purchase the XPR portables or mobiles if you can find them in the VHF & UHF model for 144 and 440 frequency range. I bought my XPR 6550 uhf portable (440) for about $360 brand new off a guy on eBay and upgraded the microphone to a remote speaker microphone model Impress PMMN4047A with it's own antenna you can buy separate never had any problems with it.

Also recently as of a week ago I bought my first Motorola XPR 5550 UHF 403-470mhz 25-40w version of this radio and it also has GPS, blutooth and colored display. I also upgraded the microphone to a RMN5127A 4-way DTMF keypad microphone that is backlit while the radio is turned on. I received the radio two days ago and really love it.

I would check in to the commerical radio stores that sales Motorola's XPR series radios and see if they have a rental XPR 6550 for either VHF or UHF Mototrbo Ham Repeater system in your area. Keep in mind the retailer that has the rental your wanting to rent one they'll probably ask are you a commerical or what is the deal. Just say your a FCC licensed ham operator provide them with a copy of your license and go from there.
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That's a good question? Forgive me I have a question as well how much does one of these turbo walkie talkies cost? They told us that they go for about $1300.00 and if we loose one we get suspended for two days! My retort would be why do we need digital encrypted radios for day to day operations at a sewerage plant?! The Newark police uses UHF and they have more traffic over the airwaves than we do.
The price of the radio varies on which you get. The mobiles are usually more expensive. The portables go anywhere from 650-850. If you want the GPS unit thrown in it can go up another 300 dollars for software and manual labor to put it in the car.
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That's a good question? Forgive me I have a question as well how much does one of these turbo walkie talkies cost? They told us that they go for about $1300.00 and if we loose one we get suspended for two days! My retort would be why do we need digital encrypted radios for day to day operations at a sewerage plant?! The Newark police uses UHF and they have more traffic over the airwaves than we do.
The price of the radio varies on which you get. The mobiles are usually more expensive. The portables go anywhere from 650-850. If you want the GPS unit thrown in it can go up another 300 dollars for software and manual labor to put it in the car.
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That's a good question? Forgive me I have a question as well how much does one of these turbo walkie talkies cost? They told us that they go for about $1300.00 and if we loose one we get suspended for two days! My retort would be why do we need digital encrypted radios for day to day operations at a sewerage plant?! The Newark police uses UHF and they have more traffic over the airwaves than we do.
Remember that the quoted $1300 figure isn't just for the radio, but for the whole package, the radio, accessories, programming, cost of processing the order, cost of processing the radio once received (adding it to the inventory, labeling it "property of ...", etc.), cost of your supervisor's grief requesting a replacement radio, cost of your supervisor's supervisor's grief requesting a replacement radio, etc., etc., etc.

Not to mention the costs associated with processing the lost radio, flagging it as lost, programming the system to no longer recognize it or allow it on the system, etc., etc., etc. (Just because they don't actually do those tasks, doesn't at all relate to what they charge to do them.)
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Man, you guys really hijacked this thread! The original question was whether he could monitor more than one Mototrbo system at the same time with a XPR 6550.

I know that on a regular TRS this is not possible with Motorola radios, but I am curious to what the Mototrbo answer is.
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It would depend, Are any of them capacity plus or connect plus?

If any are you can not scan it or from it, the radio must stay locked on to the system to hears whats going on on that system,

If they are in "simple" repeater mode then you should be able to, I'm not sure about IPSC but I would assume so, also might have issue with channels that have encryption due to you radio possibly joining late and not being in sync (can see the ID of who's talking but no audio).
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Yes they run capacity plus on all talkgroups. I do have access to the original programming however, so that wont be a problem for me to crack the code.
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Yes they run capacity plus on all talkgroups. I do have access to the original programming however, so that wont be a problem for me to crack the code.
Wait is it one MOTOTrbo system with multiple talkgroups or multiple systems?

If its multiple talkgroups on one system then you can program a channel position to use a Receive Group List which can be programmed under RX Group List.

Capacity Plus is a system wide repeater configuration.
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It is both. One system has a control channel with 2 voice channels or "talkpaths" with 6 talkgroups. The other 2 have just 2 channels each with no talkgroups
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It is both. One system has a control channel with 2 voice channels or "talkpaths" with 6 talkgroups. The other 2 have just 2 channels each with no talkgroups

Sounds like one is a Capacity Plus (BTW there is no dedicated control channel just a dynamic "rest" channel/slot) and the other 2 are basic Trbo systems, you can scan the 2 basic systems all day long as long as your not on the Capacity Plus system, and on the Capacity Plus you can "scan" talkgroups on it via RX Group List but you cant can anything off the system even the 2 basic systems..
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hanks a bunch!!!! I really appreciate you
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