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Old 11-23-2013, 10:16 AM
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I have a P25 capable Portable that I would like to get programmed up to act as a Scanner. I've been told that If I do that, set it for recieve only, and even if I turn it on, Dispatch will see my Radio ID and shut my Radio Down, bricking it... However, I have some friends who live in Chicago and bought Radios, did the same thing and have not had issues. Is my ID only visible if I transmit or?

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Old 11-23-2013, 10:27 AM
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Not really a related question
I've moved your question to its own thread since as you say, "not really a related question".

Next time, please start your own thread. Thanks.
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Are you talking P25 conventional or P25 trunk?
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Old 11-23-2013, 11:15 AM
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Sure will. My mind was not thinking 100% when I posted it.

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Sure it can be done. But my advice to you is don't. Making a radio to not affiliate depends on the system it is going on, whether it is a older Smartnet, a current Smartzone or even P25 system. The process is different with each being more complicated. Seasoned programmers can do it but because you are asking I will say that you aren't one of them. Doing something wrong can end up causing your radio to be bricked (as you mentioned). But worse yet if you establish an ID that is used by another radio, you run the risk of causing that radio user difficulty on the system. Heaven help them if they are a first responder in an emergency or life threatening situation.

So the short answer is that unless you are a actual subscriber on that system and can have the radio programmed by legit means to be a user, don't attempt to do it on your own. Leave the scanning to the scanners. You are much better off IMHO.
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I won't by any means be Programming. Haha - I would have a firned of mine, who is a Programmer do it. I just am curious as to if I do get it done, will I get it shut-down (bricked) even by turning it on?

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Its really not that big of a deal to program it to scan and not affiliate. But yes the dangers are very real with a clone on a p25 system. For example if your clone is on Channel b and the legit radio is on Channel a, the legit radio can be receiving traffic that is on Channel b and vice versa.
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Ok, thanks!
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If you'd like a real answer without all the "danger" crap, read this:

https://www.p25.ca/threads/2885-No-A...n-Instructions
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I won't by any means be Programming. Haha - I would have a firned of mine, who is a Programmer do it. I just am curious as to if I do get it done, will I get it shut-down (bricked) even by turning it on?

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If you'd like a real answer without all the "danger" crap, read this:

https://www.p25.ca/threads/2885-No-A...n-Instructions
Good advise here. Your programmer friend may learn something too.
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You should have this done by someone who REALLY knows what they are doing. Having your radio bricked is the least damage you can cause. Killing someone because your radio is mis-programmed is far worse. Don't take any shortcuts. They mere fact that you are asking at all points to the FACT that you are a noob at this. Find someone who has done this, done it successfully and knows what the h-e-l-l they are doing. Please.

Otherwise, buy a scanner.
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You should have this done by someone who REALLY knows what they are doing. Having your radio bricked is the least damage you can cause. Killing someone because your radio is mis-programmed is far worse. Don't take any shortcuts. They mere fact that you are asking at all points to the FACT that you are a noob at this. Find someone who has done this, done it successfully and knows what the h-e-l-l they are doing. Please.

Otherwise, buy a scanner.
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