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Old 08-21-2014, 11:58 AM
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Im looking to buy an MCS2000. This seller states that the radio is only capable of having 20 channels. I haven't found anything on the internet that shows 20 channels being the maximum allowed in conventional mode. Can anyone shed light on this? I'm torn between this radio and an MTS2000 portable. I only need it for conventional 800 mhz monitoring.

Motorola MCS2000 III 800MHz 15W Flashport Two Way Radio M01HX 832W | eBay

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Old 08-21-2014, 12:30 PM
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Based on the model number, that one does 160 channels. GM900/MC900/GM1100/GM1200/GM2000/MCX1200/MCS2000/MCX2000/MC2100
Maybe he just counted up the number of programmed channels in the radio currently?
You'll need the female DB25 to feed audio out of that, but shouldn't be an issue.
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Old 08-21-2014, 9:22 PM
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Thought I would weigh in since you said you may be interested in an MTS2000 portable (maybe).

First of all, I totally back up your choice on the MTS2000. I bought a model I a year or two ago and loved it so much I bought another model III about 6 months after. As everybody knows... The HT1000 is regarded as quite possibly the best portable Motorola has ever made, for reasons mainly revolving around durability, ruggedness, reliability, performance, and what not. When I was in the market for a radio I was about to buy an HT1000 but came across the MTS2000 (which isn't quite as well known) and I'm glad I did. The MTS essentially takes those qualities that everybody likes about the HT1000 and gives us the updated electronics/boards, channel capacity, screen, and most important in my opinion, the capability to program with Windows.

The nicest thing about the MTS2000 (and even MCS2000) is that now you can order the programming cable on eBay for 25 bucks, and the software to program them can be found online. I like it because I can load up monitoring frequencies on the model III (250 channel cap) if I go away for a weekend or something. Not to mention, if a department decides to change their PL or frequency or something I can change it really quick rather than having to send it out for programming.

All in all... They're a great radio, at least from the experience I've had.

I assume the MCS2000 is just as solid of a radio.
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Yeah, either radio should do what you need just fine.
Couple of issues to watch out in the the MTS-2000's is bad pixels in the display and damaged antenna connectors. The pixels often go dead on the displays making it difficult to down right impossible to read the display. Make sure you confirm the display condition before purchasing. Abused radios can also have the solder joint broken between the antenna jack and the circuit board. Not hard to fix, but having this issue can mean the radio has lead a hard life.

Unless you really need the keypad, a Model 2 in either the MTS or the MCS2000 will do 160 channels also. Shop around, there are a ton of MTS2000's on the used market. Since you plan on using it for conventional, you don't need to be concerned with the flash code as the conventional was standard on all of them. Do pay attention to the software version in the radio as some older ones won't do 12.5KHz channels.
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Thanks for all of your replies guys! In my shack I have all the bands covered by commercial radios except
800 Mhz. My 2 996XTs cover P25 very well. I just need something to cover some analog stuff that I don't want to tie up a scanner with. I understand that the latest firmware is R008.73 I think!I believe I read somewhere that firmware R05.XXX and above let you do the 12.5 khz. Now, as far as software goes, I already have it. The choice I have to make now is whether I want mobile or portable. I have the rib-less cable for the portable. I believe I need a RIB to do the mobile programming unless I'm mistaken. As far as the need for a DB 25 cable for audio, there is an internal speaker on the unit so I can use IT to monitor until I can set up a feed of some kind, or run an external speaker. Piping audio out is not a priority right now. I have to figure out where in my shack am I going to put this thing, if I choose to go with a mobile set up. Real estate is VERY limited in the shack these days!

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Confused. The E-bay photo shows a type3 MCS2000, which does not have a built in speaker. External speaker only on type 2, & 3. Only the type 1 radio has a built in speaker.
Option chart.

Model 1

1 x 8 alphanumeric display
5 programmable buttons
4w internal speaker
48 channels - optional 150 expansion

Model 2

14 alphanumeric display
13 programmable buttons
7.5w external speaker
160 channels - optional 250 expansion

Model 3

2 x 14 alphanumeric display
11 programmable buttons
7.5w external speaker
160 channels - optional 250 expansion
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OK! Now I'M confused too! Hmm! Well, I'm leaning towards a portable anyway since I can easily store it. The mobile will have to wait until I can make more room! What I need to know now is if I can turn a model 2 into a model 3 by just adding the full case and pad then activating it via the software. I did this with my HT1250 radios.......I don't NEED the full DTMF pad but the only refurb kit I found on Ebay, is for a model 3.

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Under the black plastic case on the MTS, the electronics are the same, so only the case needs to change. You'll have to do the S record thing to convert a 2 to a 3.
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Under the black plastic case on the MTS, the electronics are the same, so only the case needs to change. You'll have to do the S record thing to convert a 2 to a 3.
At the risk of sounding ignorant here, what is the "S record"?

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Thanks for the link! Now that I see what it is, how would I go about running it to the radio?

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You would need the unmentionable software to get that. Above my knowledge grade.
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I decided to go with the MTS2000 portable. Way too many things to buy in order to get this radio up and running. I would have to buy a RIB, an external speaker,and a DB25 cable. WIth the MTS portable, I already have the program cable and the software I found one that not only is in good shape but has been rebanded and has the latest firmware R08.73. Plus, it was programmed using the same software I have. The radio looks good!
I took the advise given here and bought a version 2. I don't need a full pad! So. here it is:
Motorola MTS2000 800MHz H37 Rebanded Model II Trunked 4 1 Analog Portable Radio | eBay

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you will get many years of use out of it. The particular radio shown in the picture has a white depot tag, which means it was serviced at the Motorola depot during it's life. Most likely during rebanding a few years ago.

Has a strong display, or so the seller says.

Be glad you are in an area where you can still enjoy an analog radio. Where I live, you have to shell out thousands for APX stuff.
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Firmware is above 5.42, so make sure you understand what "ToolProof" means and how to avoid toolproofing your radio.

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you will get many years of use out of it. The particular radio shown in the picture has a white depot tag, which means it was serviced at the Motorola depot during it's life. Most likely during rebanding a few years ago.

Has a strong display, or so the seller says.

Be glad you are in an area where you can still enjoy an analog radio. Where I live, you have to shell out thousands for APX stuff.
I hear ya! There aren't too many left but I'll enjoy what little there is! The guy agreed to my offer which was $50,$22 off from the $72 original asking price. Not bad considering the radio looks to be in good condition, the display looks solid, and I get 2 batteries.

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Thanks for the heads up! I read up a little on the forums here and on the link you posted. Basically,I'm going to read and save the code plug first as I normally do. Then just put in a few analog channels with their parameters ( PL/DPL etc ) and upload them to the radio. That's it! I'm not messing around with anything else, just keeping it basic and simple!. I doubt I will even use more than 1 zone to be quite honest. I have never been comfortable with hacking or modifying Motorola radios.But like I said, I do appreciate the heads up on this!

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you will get many years of use out of it. The particular radio shown in the picture has a white depot tag, which means it was serviced at the Motorola depot during it's life. Most likely during rebanding a few years ago.

Has a strong display, or so the seller says.

Be glad you are in an area where you can still enjoy an analog radio. Where I live, you have to shell out thousands for APX stuff.
The last radio I got a week ago with a "white depot tag" looked brand new works great. LOL.
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The last radio I got a week ago with a "white depot tag" looked brand new works great. LOL.
Wait, you picked one up just like this one????

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I picked up a top display radio with the "white depot tag" from a trusted seller on one of the forums. This seller & I have had many deals in the past, & I would trust him with my life.
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I wish i had seen this yesterday. I I have a model 2 that i dont use anymore and i could have saved you the money on shipping.
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