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09-15-2012, 4:42 PM
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I guess I'm missing something. What are they doing, leaving all the archives here(and inaccessible to the broadcasters unless they want to pay), and moving all the live feeds to the new site?
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09-15-2012, 4:56 PM
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Originally Posted by westside22
I guess I'm missing something. What are they doing, leaving all the archives here(and inaccessible to the broadcasters unless they want to pay), and moving all the live feeds to the new site?
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The Live Audio portion of RR will be branching off and become a it's own service. Listening to the feeds will still be free. You can sign up for a premium subscription for about $10/month.
When the live audio is branched off they freed providers will only get a 90 day free subscription to RR's database. After that they will have to pay normal price.
I do agree with splitting the two services. They could have chosen a better name.
What I don't agree with is getting nothing useful in return for providing a feed for them at free of charge. While they could make $10+ a month from people who mainly listen to my feed I get **** in return.
I will not be surprised if this thread gets closed since the release thread for their new service was closed when people complained about not getting the free subscription to the database anymore.
Like I said give me something useful in return it may stay.
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09-15-2012, 4:58 PM
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Originally Posted by avsfan33
I think it is horse**** that the feed providers will no longer get a premium subscription to the database in return for providing a feed. They want people to pay almost $10 a month for a premium subscription to their new live feed website. When we provide the feed at no charge to RR we should get something useful in return.
They will give the feed providers a free subscription to their new site. I, like many others, could give two ****s less about a premium subscription to their live audio website. In order for me to provide this feed anymore I want something in return that is useful to me. I rarely listen to other feed or my own feed. I would not use the free premium subscription to the new website that I would receive in return for providing the feed.
If the owner of this website would give me and other feed providers something USEFUL in return the feed might stay. I doubt that will happen.
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I dont know anything other than what I read, and even then, I don't really get it except they are taking something away that doesnt really cost them anything to provide to you guys....which agreed..is not right.
Heck I would pay a monthly fee to you for the fee if that is what it would take. I appreciated the feed. Very much ;(
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09-15-2012, 4:58 PM
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Originally Posted by westside22
What are they doing, leaving all the archives here(and inaccessible to the broadcasters unless they want to pay), and moving all the live feeds to the new site?
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No. Broadcasters get a full premium sub to at the new website, which includes even longer archives, system alerts, and feed bulletins -- for free.
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09-15-2012, 5:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rdale
No. Broadcasters get a full premium sub to at the new website, which includes even longer archives, system alerts, and feed bulletins -- for free.
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Quite a few broadcasters could care less about the free subscription to that web site.
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09-15-2012, 5:09 PM
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Unless there is a change to this new policy and i am able to program a scanner for free, i also will be dropping my feed and leaving RR.
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09-15-2012, 5:10 PM
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Originally Posted by avsfan33
Quite a few broadcasters could care less about the free subscription to that web site.
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What is it that will be left here that won't be on the new site? Also, is it permanent access for providers or just 90 days?
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09-15-2012, 6:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Redneck0410
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Refer to this post, it should clear up any questions you may have.
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09-15-2012, 7:05 PM
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Originally Posted by avsfan33
Quite a few broadcasters could care less about the free subscription to that web site.
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Well I do. And the point remains the same - RR policies have not changed.
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Originally Posted by westside22
What is it that will be left here that won't be on the new site?
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Everything except for the live feeds.
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Also, is it permanent access for providers or just 90 days?
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Permanent.
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09-15-2012, 7:12 PM
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So it's permanent access for the providers to the NEW site(which none of them seem to care about), but only 90 days access here, right?
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09-15-2012, 7:25 PM
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Originally Posted by westside22
So it's permanent access for the providers to the NEW site(which none of them seem to care about), but only 90 days access here, right?
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Correct
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09-15-2012, 7:35 PM
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Well, when there are no providers left, there won't be any listeners/viewers/web hits left-so they might as well just scrap the whole thing & throw both sites to the curb then.
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09-15-2012, 8:25 PM
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09-15-2012, 10:44 PM
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I'm just speculating, but splitting the site into two parts might be an intermediate step to a sale of either piece.
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09-15-2012, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by westside22
Well, when there are no providers left, there won't be any listeners/viewers/web hits left-so they might as well just scrap the whole thing & throw both sites to the curb then.
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True.
But whoever told you all the providers were leaving was sorely misinformed. That you believed him makes me wonder even more...
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09-15-2012, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mrkelso
Unless there is a change to this new policy and i am able to program a scanner for free, i also will be dropping my feed and leaving RR.
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We have control of this change. If we do not feed scanner traffic RR does not exist. RR is banking on feed providers paying the subscription to utilize the database to program our scanners the WE FEED TO RR.
Take out a calculator and assume 3000 feed providers will pay 6.95 a month.
We are the assumed customer.
I enjoy RR but this just isn't right. Even a discounted rate would say "Thanks for making RR exist"
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09-16-2012, 2:22 AM
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Originally Posted by frazpo
We have control of this change. If we do not feed scanner traffic RR does not exist.
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RR existed LONG before the live streaming part. They don't need it to survive as there are more profitable aspects to the site such as the integration of the RR database into Uniden and GRE products.
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Originally Posted by frazpo
Take out a calculator and assume 3000 feed providers will pay 6.95 a month.
We are the assumed customer.
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Why would a feed provider pay 6.95 a month when the service is provided to them for FREE?
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Originally Posted by frazpo
I enjoy RR but this just isn't right. Even a discounted rate would say "Thanks for making RR exist"
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I suspect this is all prep work for an eventual sale of the streaming site. Smart move as I wouldn't either, want my name associated with contributing to the eventual demise of the hobby.
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09-16-2012, 8:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyC
RR existed LONG before the live streaming part. They don't need it to survive as there are more profitable aspects to the site such as the integration of the RR database into Uniden and GRE products.
I realize the variables. It is given that most feed providers will want database access to program the scanners. I was trying to make the point that the money aspect was too much to pass up on RR side.
Why would a feed provider pay 6.95 a month when the service is provided to them for FREE?
We will have to pay the fee to have database access. And there are over 3000 providers. Whats free? I am speaking of database access.
I suspect this is all prep work for an eventual sale of the streaming site. Smart move as I wouldn't either, want my name associated with contributing to the eventual demise of the hobby.
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I agree. I'm sure that is brought up many times at meetings considering encryption within most PD's
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09-16-2012, 8:18 AM
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Having sat at many of those meetings, I can tell you it doesn't come up.
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09-16-2012, 8:30 AM
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I was LEO for six years. Scanner land is always in the minds of LE. It had to be, at least where I was. You also have the ID issue. Why would it be ok ti give someones complete name, DOB and SS number over a radio wave.
Imagine how many ppl listen to streaming scanner traffic that normally would not without a smartphone.
If it is so unimportant not to bring up in admin meetings then why would PD's pay more for encryption options?
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