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Old 06-26-2012, 4:19 PM
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Default Truckee Meadows/Washoe County Talkgroups

Still looking for the new TMFPD/Washoe County talk groups. Radio service has been programming the
new talk groups into their radios all last week.

I guess we will just have to look for them on Sunday morning when the new department goes in
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Old 06-26-2012, 5:25 PM
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That's part of the excitement of a new radio system. I remember when my old hometown when from a series of conventional frequencies to a trunked system .It took me awhile to confirm some talkgroups . While others were obvious. See Glynn county Georgia for details
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Old 06-26-2012, 5:58 PM
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FWIW, about a week ago I heard two Battalion Chiefs on "TM Dispatch" after one of them told the other one to switch their from RFD Red. Oddly enough it showed as NDF Dispatch 1 (433 / 03-061), so they may be just reusing that talkgroup.

Then about two hours ago I heard someone trying to reach someone else on "TM Command" which also came up as a NDF talkgroup - NDF Command 2 (436 / 03-064).

I am waiting though until I hear more traffic to submit the info to the DB.
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Heard Following Channels being tested so far - the below list is how they Identified them (I put them in talk group order) - during testing there seemed to be some confusion between the command 2 and Tac 4 - then one person said that Tac 4 was the old Sierra District Event Group (I am assuming he was refering to the Sierra Fire protection District) after that they both ended up on TAC 4 - Command 2 was tested later. It should be noted that "TMFPD" is my notation - they used either "TM" with channel name or just the channel name by itself such as Tac 4, Command 1 ETC

TMFPD Dispatch 03-061
TMFPD Command 1 03-062
TMFPD Command 2 03-063
TMFPD Tac 4 03-064
TMFPD Tac 5 03-065
TMFPD Tac 6 03-066
TMFPD Slide Mtn 03-067
TMFPD Peavine 03-070
TMFPD Virginia Pk 03-071 (ID'd as VP I am assuming Virginia Peak))
TMFPD Gerlach 03-072

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Old 06-26-2012, 6:50 PM
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Heard Following Channels being tested so far - the below list is how they Identified them (I put them in talk group order) - during testing there seemed to be some confusion between the command 2 and Tac 4 - then one person said that Tac 4 was the old Sierra District Event Group (I am assuming he was refering to the Sierra Fire protection District) after that they both ended up on TAC 4 - Command 2 was tested later. It should be noted that "TMFPD" is my notation - they used either "TM" with channel name or just the channel name by itself such as Tac 4, Command 1 ETC

TMFPD Dispatch 03-061
TMFPD Command 1 03-062
TMFPD Command 2 03-063
TMFPD Tac 4 03-064
TMFPD Tac 5 03-065
TMFPD Tac 6 03-066
TMFPD Slide Mtn 03-067
TMFPD Peavine 03-070
TMFPD Virginia Pk 03-071 (ID'd as VP I am assuming Virginia Peak))
TMFPD Gerlach 03-072
Thanks joking, it does appear then that are changing/using the NDF talkgroups. We shall see for sure this weekend...
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:31 PM
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Default Tm channels

I just had an opportunity to look at a TM portable and mobile. They both show
12 channels, as below. They also have added lots of the new 800 national
channels, plus RFD & SFD, REMSA and other mutual aid channels.


TM DISP
TM CMD 1
TM CMD 2
TM TAC 4
TM TAC 5
TM TAC 6
TMSLD
TMPVN
TMVP
TMGER
TM EVENT
TM PREV


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I also am hearing testing on 03-075 although they haven't said the name of the TG... looking at the numbering it may be related and they did say they (Washoe) were testing for "Station 11"...
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It has started, NLTFPD dispatch just asked their units to switch to the new "TM Dispatch" and "IF Main" was now retired and then shortly after, the Pyramid Lake stations just told RFD they were switching also and thanks for everything.

Units are now checking in on the new TM Dispatch (03-061)...

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Old 07-01-2012, 10:08 AM
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RFD Station 7 (Skyline Blvd) is now open for calls...
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:13 PM
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DB updates submitted...
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Old 07-01-2012, 4:08 PM
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Question July 01 2012 Washoe County/Truckee Meadows

I wasnt aware of this new configuration, however Today Sunday 07/01/2012 i have been monitoring in I.D.Search Mode (01-... & 03-...) on my Uniden and so far hear:
(03-061) Dispatching "Washoe County"
(03-075) Washoe County testing with Fire Stations,earlier heard (Testing 1 2 3 4 5)

Heard Gerlach,Incline earlier on (03-061)

Washoe is testing Tone-Out and Voice, havent figured out that freq or mode but im searching VHF,UHF & 800 Conventional Mode for it.
453.2500 mhz/606DPL i believe is RFD CAD or Station Disp.

Is there an article somewhere that i can get some info on the plan in effect today other than what is posted here?

Unknown if related but a lot of testing being done on Nevada Dept of Transportation/Public Safety,Public Service Interops Freqs on VHF Highband.

Friday 06/29/2012 testing was being done on 151.0700 mhz/156.7 hz
These are still in buildout stage,but there has been activity on 159.0825 mhz/156.7 hz Peavine Pk.
These are the sites i can hear, there are more in Washoe Co and others statewide.

WQNL836 Bald Mtn............................................... .38 47'03.0 N, 118 50'04.0 W
151.0700 MR 156.1800 MO 156.7 (Ops Confirmed)

159.0525 MR Nothing yet heard
154.9650 MO Currently in use as (Pershing Co Sheriff Ch/167.9 hz) Conflict? Unknown.
155.4450 MO Alert Tone heard (NOAA/EAS Msg type tone) 151.4 hz Tone detected.

WQNL836 Corey Pk................................................ 38 27'27.6 N, 118 45'54.8 W
151.0700 MR 156.1800 MO 156.7 (Ops Confirmed)
153.8450 MR 156.1350 MO 156.7 (Ops Confirmed)
159.0825 MR 156.0450 MO 156.7 (Ops Confirmed)

WQNL836 Tracy Clark............................................. 39 33'25.7 N, 119 21'49.6 W
151.0700 MR 156.1800 MO 156.7 (Ops Confirmed)

153.9200 MR Currently in use as(Mono Co Public Works) Conlict?Unknown
159.1500 MR Testing
155.1450 MO Was or is (NV State-4) Fire Tac
155.5875 MO Nothing heard yet.

WQNL836 Rawe Pk................................................ .39 11'49.7 N, 119 29'26.6 W
151.0700 MR 156.1800 MO 156.7 (Ops Confirmed)
159.1800 MR 154.8300 MO 156.7 (Ops Confirmed)

WQMN810 Pine Grove............................................. .38 41'01.7 N, 119 11'10.6 W
151.0700 MR 156.1800 MO 156.7 (Ops Confirmed)
153.9050 MR 155.3700 MO 156.7 (Ops Confirmed)
158.7525 MR 155.7300 MO 156.7 (Ops Confirmed)

WQMN810 Peavine Pk..............................................39 35'22.7 N, 119 55'42.9 W
151.0700 MR 156.1800 MO 156.7 (Ops Confirmed)

153.8750 MR Testing

159.0825 MR 156.0450 MO 156.7 (Ops Confirmed)

155.4450 MO Alert Tone heard (NOAA/EAS Msg type tone) 151.4 hz detected.

WQMN810 Fairview Pk.............................................39 13'30.5 N, 118 09'06.0 W
151.0700 MR 156.1800 MO 156.7 (Ops Confirmed)

151.3100 MR Testing
155.1300 MO Currently in use as (Douglas Co Sheriff North/South Ch 173.8 hz) Conflict? Unknown
159.0950 MO Nothing heard yet.

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Other than what is in this blog, I don't think there is much yet. I am sure more info will be forthcoming.

I have a couple of radio loading charts on the new TMFPD, but they are in XLS. I do not know how to attach them here.
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Was told they would continue to use the current VHF freqs for wildland fires

TM Main 159.3900 TX
158.7450 RX

PL 107.2 Slide Mountain
PL 118.0 Peavine
PL 136.5 Virginia Peak
PL 127.3 Gerlach
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Is there an article somewhere that i can get some info on the plan in effect today other than what is posted here?

http://www.rgj.com/article/20120701/...ire-chief-said


http://www.rgj.com/article/20120630/...nt-what-s-next
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https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...02557,0.617294

I made up a map for fire stations in Washoe County. I got bogged down a little with all the changes. If anyone can offer any corrections, they would be appreciated.
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In the latest RR database for TMFPD it shows 03-067, 070, 071 & 072 as dispatch channels.

Question: Are these dispatch channels or are these the cross-band channels to the TM vhf
repeaters at those locatios.

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In the latest RR database for TMFPD it shows 03-067, 070, 071 & 072 as dispatch channels.

Question: Are these dispatch channels or are these the cross-band channels to the TM vhf
repeaters at those locatios.

Dave
I don't know exactly so I couldn't advise what exactly to set them to as they will dispatch on the channel and then use it as a command/tac channel often times. I do believe though the VHF system can be used on them.
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Thanks for the info. By the way, 03-073 is the Event tg and 03-074 is the prevention tg.

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Old 07-05-2012, 2:21 AM
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Prior to Truckee Meadows merging with Reno Fire Dept, wich i think was about 10 or more years ago they were VHF only using the Repeater sites and two Simplex Tac Channels (RFD was on 453 mhz before moving to EDACS), then they merged and at that time RFD had moved to EDACS and i think since the radio system was already in place it was easier to crossband One TG per VHF Rptr site and the tw Tac Channels Gold and Silver.
EDACS can Simulcast, and VHF couldnt be done that way, so depending on the area they chose a site to Simulcast a Dispatch.
Why they still are calling those Disp i assume that if for some reason they can still Simulcast on EDACS and VHF.
It was just a month ago i believe that all 800 mhz RFD traffic was crossbanded on all the original VHF Channels when working a fire.

It was like this:
TM Slide Dispatch
158.7450 mhz.146.2 Output
159.3900 mhz/107.2 Input
AFS 03-031 800 mhz Crossband
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TM Peavine Dispatch
158.7450 mhz/146.2 Output
159.3900 mhz/118.8 Input
AFS 03-032 800 mhz Crossband
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TM Virginia Dispatch
158.7450 mhz/146.2 Output
159.3900 mhz/136.5 Input
AFS 03-033 800 mhz Crossband
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TM Silver
158.8800 mhz/Csq Output
158.8800 mhz/107.2 Input
AFS 03-024 800 mhz Crossband
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TM Gold
158.9400 mhz/Csq Output
158.9400 mhz/107.2 Input
AFS 03-023 800 mhz Crossband

They have carried those VHF sites over to the new Talkgroups to Crossband with 800 mhz, i read the article and they state that for now the VHF will remain in place for back up.
Today was listening to VHF and 800 mhz TG 03-070 Peavine, and there was no crossbanding today however they could had gone to the VHF TM-Peavine and Crossbanded to TM-Peavine EDACS, also all or most of the Pagers for the VFD's are still using VHF.
I assume as needed Dispatch can connect opr disconnect crossbanding at will like before.
That is my 2 Cents worth from what i do know from listening for 20 years on and off.
I wouldnt always listen to them because they are 45 miles north of my location but were part of my Scan list programed in my radio.
If this helps in any way thats a good thing.
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Thanks Mark for the info. Kind of what I thought.

Have you decided to put TMFD into your on-line scanner?

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