NHP Talk gorups

[BJ_NORTON]

It seems to me that we need a three pronged approach to mapping TGs for the NHP

1. Identify TGs NHP is using and any name they might have for the channel like LV1 or Tac 3. Most are in the 05-XXX range, but I have seen a few in the 08-XXX range which hosts mostly Nevada Power Talkgroups. I have seen information that their are as many as 8 patrol beats in Las Vegas, so their could be 8 TGs and tac channels-1 for each beat.

2. Location of calls and stops made on each TG ie 95 and Charleston northbound South of on TG 05-121. They seem to use the street they are on first, then the cross street. Also they use Highway numbers to ID some streets like 604 is Las Vegas Blvd. If you don't know what the street is post what they give and we can look on a map to see what the street name is.

3. Type of unit making the stop. There are regular cruisers, motorcycles, and commercial units. It would make sense to me that at least the commercial units would have their own channel since they specialize in inspecting Commercial traffic. Maybe the Motors have their own channels.

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The callsigns have a specific format which might be able to help in part three

The letter that is given denotes what agency they work for. NHP has 4 different letters:
A Adam - Administration
D David - Day shift
S Sam - Swing shift
G George - graveyard
If it is not one of these it isn't NHP. When I lived in Elko and White Pine Counties the other users I heard were Boy (Dept of Agriculture I think) and a variety of Paul units (these were dept of prisons - paul victors were the transport busses)

The first number of their call sign indicates their rank or the type of unit that they are. I asked a friend of mine on the NHP what they meant and this is what he told me. They stopped using this system for a while and then came back to it or something very similar:
7 - is/was commercial
6 - is/was regular trooper doing traffic
4 - is/was a Sargeant
3 - is/was a Luetenant
2 - is/was a Captain
1 - is/was a Major

Then the last three numbers are the units ID. the ID numbers seem to have a direct relation to how long the trooper has been on the force. I know a guy that has been in for 12+ years and his is a 1XX, while another guy I know has about 7 years and is a 2XX

so, David 6620 is a day shift regular trooper, while Sam 7243 is a commercial inspector on Swing shift. Adam 4263 is quite possibly their boss being both an administrator and a sargeant.

My few sources of info for NHP are in Elko county, so they know nothing about the trunked system in Vegas.

Lets work together and see what we can come up with!!

 

[edgeman]

Thanks for setting this up. I have been hearing more NHP traffic and will update everyone as I come across data. I would also like to see some info about the SNACC system. I have some quite a few group ids for this system and will update later.

What you all think of just posting what info we have, compare it and make corrections as needed?



Have a great day all.

 

[BJ_NORTON]

Personally I would like to see it crossed shecked by someone else before it gets put on the DB, but that is just me. I like to have a working copy (which is what I kind of envision here) and a true copy (what has been independently verified). If you want to post what you have to the DB and then we can all have a go at it there and suggest corrections we can do that as well. Just my thoughts.

Also I found my notes at work today, so I will post them tonight.

As for the Snacc system I would like to know more as well. I like to listen to the NSRS, because that is what has my fancy right now. I'm sure in a few weeks I might really get into the SNACC too

 

[23skidoo]

Let's see, heard George-6606 @ Eastern Belt South of 295...

George-6630, 95 Decater Southbound on 0737. I don't get TG ID's yet should be 05-121.

George-6593, Windmill-Paradise Westbond on 0738, (05-122?)

Heard someone tell "601 go to car to car 2" on 0742, (05-126)

David-6111, US93 Northbound at I-15

Also later David-6111,again Northbound on I-15 on 0740 (05-124)
David-3189, 116 and Clark 128, on 0740.. (05-124?)

Adam-5372 "15-Cheyanne 10-8" on 0740 (05-124?)

David-6111 US93 North I-15 on 0740 (05-124)

The Georges was late at night and the Davids early AM

 

[edgeman]

I don't have much info as in who is using what tlak groups, but I did put together the NHP radio codes. I hope you all can use this.
I am working on trying to get their unit identifiers. I'll post if I can find them.

10-1 Reception Poor
10-2 Reception Good
10-4 Acknowledged
10-5 Relay or Meet
10-6 Traffic Stop
10-6H Home Contact on Offender
10-7 Out of Service
10-8 In Service
10-9
10-10 Fight in Progress
10-12 Standby
10-13 Advise of Weather Conditions
10-18 Complete Assignment Quickly
10-19 Return to
10-20 Location
10-21 Call by Telephone
10-22 Disregard
10-23 Arrived at Scene
10-24 Assignment Completed
10-26 Advise Criminal History
10-27 Request D.L. Information
10-27D License is suspended/Revoked
10-28 Request Vehicle Registration Information
10-28D Registration Record is Suspended/Cancelled
10-29 Wants Check
10-30 Illegal Use of Radio
10-32 Person with a Gun
10-33 Emergency
10-36 Advise Correct time
10-38 Suspicious Vehicle or Circumstances
10-41 Starting Tour of Duty
10-42 Ending Tour of Duty
10-43 Information
10-45 Dead of Injured Aminal
10-46 Motorist Assist
10-47 Adandoned Vehicle
10-48 Traffice Device Needs Repair
10-50 Accident
F-Fatality, I-Injury, P-Property Damage
H-Hit and Run, U-Unknown Injuries
10-51 Tow Truck Required
10-52 Ambulance Required
10-54 Livestock on Roadway
10-55 Intoxicated Driver
10=56 Intoxicated Passenger of Pedestrian
10-58 Direct Traffic
10-59 Convoy or Escort
10-60 Checkpoint Operation
10-62 Vehicle Weighting Activity
10-63 Terminal Inspection
10-69 Hazardous Materials Involved
10-70 Fire
10-76 enroute
10-77 E.T.A.
10-78 Need Assistance
10-79 Notify Coroner
10-88 Advise Phone Number of
10-95 Radio Check
10-96 Mental Subject
10-98 Jail/Prison Distrubance
10-99 Stolen Vehicle
11-10F Felony Want
11-10M Misdemeanor Want
11-10C Use Caution
11-33 Officer in Danger, Send Help
Code 1 At Your Convenience
Code 2 Obey all Laws/Expedite
Code 3 EmergencyExpedite
Code 4 Officer is OK
Code 5 Combative/Uncooperative Prisoner
Code 7 Lunch/Break
Code 8 Surveillance
Officer Accompanied By:
J-1 Tranporting Personal
J-1X Tranporting Personal of Opposite Sex
J-2 Transporting Property
J-3 Transporting Prisoner
J-3X Transporting Prisoner Of Opposite Sex
J-4 Transporting Paperwork

 

[BJ_NORTON]

from listening the last week or so here is what I can come up with for 2 of the talk groups:

05-121
they call this LV1 and units on it seem to patrol US 95, Summerlin Pkwy and the Beltway north on Sumerlin Pkwy and I-15 North of the I-15/US-95 interchange.

05-122
they call this LV2 and units on it seem to patrol I-15 south of the I-15/US-95 interchange, and the Beltway south of Summerlin Pkwy to some point Wast of I-15, but I'm not quite sure where

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with a moderate amount of listening I hear:
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05-123 called three, so I assume LV3. I have heard units paroling on Sahara and in Searchlight and often on 95 and I-15, but they give mile post numbers, so I have no idea where they are actually located (one of these days I will have to drive out of the city and take note of which way the mile posts go). I kind of think this might be the channel for all of the Clark county patrols that are not specifically spelled out as LV1 or LV2 kind of a "catch-all" channel. Also I hear a lot of Paul units working this TG, so it must not be exclusive to NHP.

05-125 called car to car 1 and paired with the units working on 05-121 or LV1

05-126 car to car 2 and paired with the units working on 05-122 orLV2


05-127 car to car 3 and paired with the units working on 05-123 orLV3

as an intersesting side note I was listening to 05-141 the other day which I think is a Reno NHP talkgroup unless we now have a McCarran Blvd now why do you think Reno is getting piped in all the way down here?

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if you think these maybe somewhat wrong please let me know!!!

 

[VegasCorbin]

I don't have much info as in who is using what tlak groups, but I did put together the NHP radio codes. I hope you all can use this.
I am working on trying to get their unit identifiers. I'll post if I can find them.

10-1 Reception Poor
10-2 Reception Good
10-4 Acknowledged
10-5 Relay or Meet
10-6 Traffic Stop
10-6H Home Contact on Offender
10-7 Out of Service
10-8 In Service
10-9
10-10 Fight in Progress
10-12 Standby
10-13 Advise of Weather Conditions
10-18 Complete Assignment Quickly
10-19 Return to
10-20 Location
10-21 Call by Telephone
10-22 Disregard
10-23 Arrived at Scene
10-24 Assignment Completed
10-26 Advise Criminal History
10-27 Request D.L. Information
10-27D License is suspended/Revoked
10-28 Request Vehicle Registration Information
10-28D Registration Record is Suspended/Cancelled
10-29 Wants Check
10-30 Illegal Use of Radio
10-32 Person with a Gun
10-33 Emergency
10-36 Advise Correct time
10-38 Suspicious Vehicle or Circumstances
10-41 Starting Tour of Duty
10-42 Ending Tour of Duty
10-43 Information
10-45 Dead of Injured Aminal
10-46 Motorist Assist
10-47 Adandoned Vehicle
10-48 Traffice Device Needs Repair
10-50 Accident
F-Fatality, I-Injury, P-Property Damage
H-Hit and Run, U-Unknown Injuries
10-51 Tow Truck Required
10-52 Ambulance Required
10-54 Livestock on Roadway
10-55 Intoxicated Driver
10=56 Intoxicated Passenger of Pedestrian
10-58 Direct Traffic
10-59 Convoy or Escort
10-60 Checkpoint Operation
10-62 Vehicle Weighting Activity
10-63 Terminal Inspection
10-69 Hazardous Materials Involved
10-70 Fire
10-76 enroute
10-77 E.T.A.
10-78 Need Assistance
10-79 Notify Coroner
10-88 Advise Phone Number of
10-95 Radio Check
10-96 Mental Subject
10-98 Jail/Prison Distrubance
10-99 Stolen Vehicle
11-10F Felony Want
11-10M Misdemeanor Want
11-10C Use Caution
11-33 Officer in Danger, Send Help
Code 1 At Your Convenience
Code 2 Obey all Laws/Expedite
Code 3 EmergencyExpedite
Code 4 Officer is OK
Code 5 Combative/Uncooperative Prisoner
Code 7 Lunch/Break
Code 8 Surveillance
Officer Accompanied By:
J-1 Tranporting Personal
J-1X Tranporting Personal of Opposite Sex
J-2 Transporting Property
J-3 Transporting Prisoner
J-3X Transporting Prisoner Of Opposite Sex
J-4 Transporting Paperwork

I don't see a code for 12 MILLION BEES!!!!

 

[BJ_NORTON]

:lol: :lol: ROFL :lol: :lol:

 

[sigint1]

as an intersesting side note I was listening to 05-141 the other day which I think is a Reno NHP talkgroup unless we now have a McCarran Blvd now why do you think Reno is getting piped in all the way down here?

Here are some Reno NHP talkgroups - these are patched to the Washoe County EDACS system - we also get Las Vegas North 05-121 and las Vegas South 05-122 and Vegas urban 05-123 - I have been in the Reno dispatch center (only briefly) - they do have the capability to dispatch Las Vegas units - for a while they were doing Parole & Probation statewide - they switch back and forth as some of the new repeaters and sites come on line - I hope to be able to get more info - they routinely monitor 6 channels plus urban here in reno. Reno metro units work off of the Washoe County EDACS system - with the same talkgroup numbers.


05-141 0753 02F1 Nevada Highway Patrol Reno 1 (RN 1)

05-142 0754 02F2 Nevada Highway Patrol Reno 2 (RN 2)

05-144 0756 02F4

05-145 0757 02F5 Nevada Highway Patrol Tac 1

05-146 0758 02F6 Nevada Highway Patrol Tac 2

05-147 0759 02F7 Nevada Highway Patrol Tac 3

 

[edgeman]

Just a heads up for everyone in Vegas. I just picked the 2nd edition of the Southern Nevada Radio Scanner directory published by Cat Comm. The authors have updated some of the talk groups for the SNACC system. I found it helpful. If you are following the SNACC system, I would recommend picking on up.

I have been hearing more training excercises from the FD lately, were interesting. I would imanage they are preparing for New Year's eve.

Have a great holiday all.

 

[iceman47]

By design the Nevada EDACS system will be simulcast in 3 separate areas. Or they hope it will.
Reno, Las Vegas and Elko areas.
Each area, by design, will handle traffic in it's own area of designation and will be simulcast in that area.
This Statewide System, by design, will allow any of the 3 dispatch areas to control traffic in other areas as well as the entire state.
Also, if a Reno unit is in the Las Vegas area, and he wishes to communicate with Reno, he should be able to use the Reno T.G. to do so even while in Las Vegas. That transmission would be routed to the Reno Center by means of the talkgroup used.
I the Reno area the unit designator is usually the license number for the vehicle being driven. This seems to be the case here.
Also, I believe that "Paul" units are Parole and Probation or as they term it P&P.
The reason I use the term, "BY DESIGN" is that this system seems not to work as it was designed to.
As more and more tower locations come on line we will have to see just how good the "College Boys" designs work off of paper.
So far too many failures have occurred with a system that is far too complicated to operate efficiently and by all means a financial burden on the Nevada Taxpayer.

 

[BJ_NORTON]

In the past I have heard Elko dispatched by Reno, so I kinda thought that any dispatch center could dispatch for any place in the state. In Elko this summer there was a bit of a revelation that the state wanted to dispatch Central comand (Elko) from Reno. The politicians were very concerned about the Elko people having to move, or be fired, but we were told that They would be used to dispatch dept of Parole & probation.

I the Reno area the unit designator is usually the license number for the vehicle being driven. This seems to be the case here.

For the couple of Troopers I know in Elko the plate did match their unit ID. When they were assigned to a new car the plate came off the old one and went on the new car. The one exception that I knew of was a trooper that had 2 vehicles; his cruiser and a pickup truck that he used for accident reconstruction.

Also, if a Reno unit is in the Las Vegas area, and he wishes to communicate with Reno, he should be able to use the Reno T.G. to do so even while in Las Vegas. That transmission would be routed to the Reno Center by means of the talkgroup used.

I find it interesting to listen to the Radio techs who often talk to each other statewide. Last week I heard Vegas, Ely and Reno running tests together. I have listend to car to car chit chat that was taking place in Elko, while I was in Vegas, so it would seem that the system is at least partially working.

by all means a financial burden on the Nevada Taxpayer

here here!! What a waste! You would think one of the radio techs would have wondered why they were putting up CW IDs of Xmitter locations instead of callsigns.

 

[TOUGHLIFE]

I to have acquired a copy of the December 2004 (2nd edition) Southern Nevada Radio Scanner Directory and am very impressed with it. In regards to the Dept. of Public Safety (parent organization of the NHP) the book shows a good list of the talk groups used by the agency and its divisions as well as other state agencies that utilize the system. The old VHF system is also presented in the book as it has not been turned off and remains as a backup if and when the 800 system experiences major problems. All of the DPS vehicles still have the VHF radios in them along with the 800 MHz radios. Patching talk groups together happens on a regular basis. It is not unusual to see LV 3 (05-123) patched with Allied (05-124). Aside from the normal radio codes that are used by DPS there is a section showing the criminal history codes that help dispatch mask the meaning of a given crime from those monitoring the system. Dispatch has sometimes said "100 Four Down" which translates to Code 100, item "d", Assault With A Deadly Weapon On Police Officer". The book also shows the DPS Incident Dispositon Codes which all DPS units must give the dispatcher after completing a given assignment whether self-generated by the officer or otherwise assigned to him/her. This information is entered into the CAD (Computer Assisted Dispatch) system after the assignment. The Radio Call Designator listing is also a very welcome feature as it tells you which agency or division the unit belongs to. The NHP Beat Listing also follows and normally when the unit goes 10-41 (beginning tour of duty) the beat will be given and this is also entered into the CAD system. It also tells you if the unit is an allied agency or NHP.

The book also has many new frequencies that are now licensed to LVMPD (some are VHF and some are UHF). Surveillance and other use frequencies are noted. Two good LVMPD area command maps are also noted with an expanded NLVPD section. A very good presentation of the Clark County TRS (SNACC) shows with the information presented two ways. First, by agency name followed with the talk group ID and a description of the channel, and secondly in reverse format by talk group ID in numerical order which is most useful for the searching mode. A complete list of fire stations for the cities of LV, Henderson, and NLV follows as well as the Clark County stations. Each station listing shows the equipment normally assigned to the station. Good information about he EMS system is in the book including EMS talk groups on the SNACC system as well as medical dispatch codes often used by the Henderson FD and some ambulance companies. VHF and UHF medical related frequencies also show in the book. A long and updated list of VHF and UHF conventional frequencies used by local governments follows. It is amazing how much traffic is found here in this section and on the SNACC system. A color beat map of the Henderson PD shows along with their radio code as it differs from the LVMPD. Various State agencies also are listed in the book followed by a good collection of federal frequencies, a mixture of law enforcement and non-law enforcement. Information about the new Nellis AFB UHF trunking system follows (gone are the old VHF and UHF ground frequencies). Commercial & general aviation listings follow. Next is a section on ground transportation (railroads including the LV monorail, yes, it just resumed operations), taxis & limos, and busses. Motor-sports follows with various race groups, airlines (non-aviation frequencies), and gold courses & country clubs. A very large section of hotel & casino information follows with trunking for 31 properties showing. Selected business frequency information comes next and lastly is a section on ham repeaters for Southern Nevada.

A lot of work went into the publication and it is a "must have" for any serious monitor radio listener in Southern Nevada. Don't take my word for it but go see it at Radio World in Boulder City (294-2666) or Amateur Electronic Supply (647-3114). It beats Police Call book any day. Some internet sites have even copied information from the book it's so accurate. It's fantastic. That's my opinion.

 

[BJ_NORTON]

I bought a copy at the begining of the month too. I often look up the incident codes when NHP goes 10-8 from a call. for instance I always wondered what SAM SAM was, now I know it is a call that was settled on scene.

The VHF system I decided a while back was too complicated for me to try and program (those offsets are so confusing) so I am glad they are on 800, where program is fairly straight forward.

I too would recomend that people who are seriously interested in scanning Southern Nevada by this guide. My only beef with it is the price. For the amount I paid for it I would expect something more than a staple in the corner holding the whole thing together. Something like those plastic binding combs would have been more appropriate. I also would have liked to have seen more color maps, but I understand that this is not officially sanctioned by any of the agencies, so any info is great!

BJ

 

[VegasCorbin]

I to have acquired a copy of the December 2004 (2nd edition) Southern Nevada Radio Scanner Directory and am very impressed with it. ....A lot of work went into the publication and it is a "must have" for any serious monitor radio listener in Southern Nevada. Don't take my word for it but go see it at Radio World in Boulder City (294-2666) or Amateur Electronic Supply (647-3114). It beats Police Call book any day. Some internet sites have even copied information from the book it's so accurate. It's fantastic. That's my opinion.

As The saying goes what is the "Manufactuares Sugested Retail Price" of this book?

 

[TOUGHLIFE]

Price of the book

Radio World in BC usually charges no more than $15, sometimes less as one can bargain with the store's owner. He has earned the moniker of "Trader Dave". AES has it listed in their catalog as $15.95. I guess that they simply charge what the market will bare. My copy has no suggested list price on it.

 

[VegasCorbin]

Re: Price of the book

Radio World in BC usually charges no more than $15, sometimes less as one can bargain with the store's owner. He has earned the moniker of "Trader Dave". AES has it listed in their catalog as $15.95. I guess that they simply charge what the market will bare. My copy has no suggested list price on it.

Thanks!

Now I know what I will spend some of my christmas money on.

Vegascorbin

 

[edgeman]

What does ROFL mean? :lol:

 

[BJ_NORTON]

Rolling On the Floor Laughing

 

[dtscho]

Reference the frequency guide, does it have channel orders and IDs for many of the LTR systems used by the hotels? If it does, I would be very interested in getting this book. Thanks.

Dave