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Old 06-11-2012, 9:08 PM
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Coast Guard says yacht blast call may be hoax | Reuters

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...158484725.html

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Old 06-11-2012, 9:22 PM
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Unreal. Having responded to numerous MCI's, it is not a cheap operation. I rolled to the Bronx Tour Bus Crash with the ME's office in NYC and just for us the costs were in the millions. Unfortunately, it will be difficult to catch the individual unless someone was on top of the tx-er with a stalker.
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Old 06-11-2012, 9:31 PM
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How was this distress call received? VHF or HF marine radio, cell phone? Anyone know.
Call was received via VHF ch 16..I heard this call go out as i was working in NY Harbor today..caller stated that they were on a handheld vhf radio..all electrical systems were down as he stated, also caller stated he activated there EPIRB ...first clue to me this was a hoax..when the CG couldnt get a fix from the EPIRB...Also the caller stated he had 3rd degree burns all over his body..2nd clue this was a hoax he was talking in a normal voice..i dont know what 3rd degree burns feel like but im sure you would be able to hear it in my voice..bastard should be shot for this bull**** stunt..this was definitly a stupid hoax..they responded way to fast not to find anything...a life ring , fuel spill,debris, etc nothing found..
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i dont know what 3rd degree burns feel like but im sure you would be able to hear it in my voice...
I was off today and heard the call also at my friend's place in Sea Gate, Brooklyn. She's on the beach and always keeps 16 on. Both of us volunteer in EMS, and both of us knew something wasn't right from the start. There was no panic, no sense of shock. The amount of pain, even for the toughest human being, would be nearly unbearable. And that's if the explosion didn't knock you into the water or unconcious straight away.

Bottom line, this definitely needs to be prosecuted. This cost big bucks and major resources, even in just 2.5hrs. Manpower, gasoline, av gas, tying up the entire state Medevac network. If they can find the person(s), they need to nail 'em to the courtroom wall.
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Not sure what a medavac helo is per hour in NJ, but our medevac is around CA$6000/hr. So 6 holes x 6000 x number of hours they were on that call, never mind ambulances, police, coastguard ships and helos ect ect.... A million bucks comes up fast. This numbskull needs to be found and made an example of including paying for all this man power and equipment
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As stupid as the stunt was (or at least appears to have been), they'll probably post video of it on youtube or brag about it on Facebook or Twitter and get caught. At least we can hope so.
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...what it's like &1,500.00 an hour for copters. right...
$1500/hr for an Astar and a pilot maybe. Probably closer to $2000/hr. A 206 jet ranger would probably be less than $1500.

You are forgetting that medevac helos are very specialised aircraft, and there is some advanced medical gear and highly trained medical talent flying in them that needs to be paid as well.
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And if I'm not mistaken, being this was called on VHF 16, and to the USCG, it makes it a FEDERAL offense.
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Does anyone know where I can find and listen to the actual distress call?
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:38 PM
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Audio was just released to the media

Audio: Distress call from N.J. hoax boat explosion is released | NJ.com

I'm a little shocked. Sounds like an old man. Figured it was a young kid. Unreal.
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The plot thickens...

Coast Guard investigating connection between reported yacht explosion, similar hoax last year | NJ.com
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The Associated Press: Coast Guard: Yacht blast hoax calls came from land

How would they know if it came from land?
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Old 06-12-2012, 2:17 PM
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USCG has the capability of direction finding (DF) the source of the signal. If you notice the CG antennas, you would notice a array of vertical antennas positioned in a circular pattern. They are used to identify the direction of the call and with multiple antenna sites they can triangulate the exact position of call.
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Problem is, in this case, the USCG says only one antenna received the signal.
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USCG has the capability of direction finding (DF) the source of the signal.
I know that, but is that something they normally do on the initial call? If not, how would they determine the location later?
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It's all recorded and triangulated if more than one tower gets the signal

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I know that, but is that something they normally do on the initial call? If not, how would they determine the location later?
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The "new" rescue 21 radio system that the Coast Guard has.
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Old 06-12-2012, 5:01 PM
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These freaking idiots, probably copying the one in Raritan Bay last year, not only cost more than a hundred thousand dollars in response costs but put coastie and first responder lives at risk. The voice on the tape did not sound like some kid getting his jollies! I do hope the call can be traced or an investigation provides enough evidence to hang these $#^&@ from the yardarm at Station Sandy Hook!There was no EPIRB signal that could be useful nor was the new digital-capable marine radio system used.
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I know it's a Catch-22 situation, even if you suspect a distress call is a hoax, you still have to take action in-case it's real.

But what kind of idiot would hear that 'distress' radio traffic and not be strongly suspicious that it was a hoax?! Even if you think the calm demeanor was because the guy was going into shock, he still had way too much specific info to give out to the USCG.

By all means, send out one or two aircraft, a cutter & divert any other vessels in the area, but I don't think they needed to make it a mass-casualty incident until someone got to the scene & confirmed the basics.

Even Domino's knows to at least call back & try to authenticate someone ordering a pizza if something about the call seems suspicious.
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hooligan. not sure if you are involved in emergency services or not. BUT there is an old saying. "i'd rather have the world coming, and not need them. then have it the other way around." not sure if i made that one up or not.

when "the golden hour" is ticking by, you need to make decisions on the fly.
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