MONOC 1 Grounded?

DJ88 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-06-2009, 10:26 AM

Article from the Asbury Park Press website Tuesday 10/6/09:
Air ambulance helicopter service won't renew contract | APP.com | Asbury Park Press

Devilz311 · #2 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 03:56 AM

Yep, It's ending December 1st. It's pretty nice having a Medivac in the area with only a 5 minute ETA... (When they're available...) I know they're looking into other aeromedical vendors, but I also hear there's a bit of a revolution going on in Monoc upper management, so who knows...

kenisned · #3 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 11:00 AM

Wow.

NJ needs a comprehensive plan for medevacs. There are many times that 1 ship flies over the other one who is sitting on their pad, while going to an on-scene request.

In addition, NJ clearly needs more then the two NJSP ships.

kc2rgw · #4 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 11:59 AM

I'm years out of date too, but NJSP would refuse to fly at the drop of a hat.

Seemed it had to be one of the 20 perfect days in a year to get them on scene.

pdfdems286 · #5 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kenisned

Wow.

NJ needs a comprehensive plan for medevacs. There are many times that 1 ship flies over the other one who is sitting on their pad, while going to an on-scene request.

In addition, NJ clearly needs more then the two NJSP ships.

point 1 - i didn't think that happened anymore because of "deregulation" of the closest available ship.

point 2 - although when an emergency strike's,you want a medevac available, i think alot of it has to do with the fear of a ship and crew sitting idle. don't forget too, the njsp has some of the tightest flying restriction's. they definetly believe in safety first. they are not operating under the constraint's of "making money first". i don't believe you will see any added ship's in the near future.two of the main reason's.they already have atlantic air,monoc <?> and medevac 5 as competition/back-up. the other,and probably more compelling reason is the state's mismanaged finance's, and the fiscal mess this state is in.

MedicCop · #6 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pdfdems286

point 1 - i didn't think that happened anymore because of "deregulation" of the closest available ship.

point 2 - although when an emergency strike's,you want a medevac available, i think alot of it has to do with the fear of a ship and crew sitting idle. don't forget too, the njsp has some of the tightest flying restriction's. they definetly believe in safety first. they are not operating under the constraint's of "making money first". i don't believe you will see any added ship's in the near future.two of the main reason's.they already have atlantic air,monoc <?> and medevac 5 as competition/back-up. the other,and probably more compelling reason is the state's mismanaged finance's, and the fiscal mess this state is in.

The "Deregulation" you mention only provided postage-stamp sized first-due areas to MedEvac 5, MONOC 1, and Atlantic Air 1. SouthSTAR routinely flies directly over MedEvac 5's base to get to the shore points, normally about 8-10 minutes after getting airborne. The idea that the closest helicopter is being sent is a fallacy.

pdfdems286 · #7 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MedicCop

The "Deregulation" you mention only provided postage-stamp sized first-due areas to MedEvac 5, MONOC 1, and Atlantic Air 1. SouthSTAR routinely flies directly over MedEvac 5's base to get to the shore points, normally about 8-10 minutes after getting airborne. The idea that the closest helicopter is being sent is a fallacy.

i wonder how that would change if it was challenged in court by victim's who had to wait longer for a medevac.especially the case's where it affected the outcome <i.e. survival>. yes i know that litigation is a tangled,drawn out process. it is discoverable to find out what the status was of the medevac that was sitting idle,while the ship that was further away did a fly by. another case of this state and it's stupidity.

mondaro · #8 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 06:22 PM

Sad day if MONOC 1 is no longer, We need every EMS asset we can get across the State. I feel bad for the flight crews and also the patients in need of the Medevac Service.

kenisned · #9 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pdfdems286

i wonder how that would change if it was challenged in court by victim's who had to wait longer for a medevac.especially the case's where it affected the outcome <i.e. survival>. yes i know that litigation is a tangled,drawn out process. it is discoverable to find out what the status was of the medevac that was sitting idle,while the ship that was further away did a fly by. another case of this state and it's stupidity.

You can't fight city hall... especially Trenton.

kenisned · #10 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 06:39 PM

As a matter of fact...

Car into a house in Frankford (Sussex County) today. Northstar was sent and basically flew right by Atlantic Air One who was sitting at their base.

Then.. Air One was sent to Hunterdon for a fall victim.

A lot of wasted fuel and time.

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r60 · #11 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 07:35 PM

90% of the time a ship arrives at the LZ the patient is not packaged.

So what does a few minutes mean in these cases?

Let's just agree to disagree and move on.

pdfdems286 · #12 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by r60

90% of the time a ship arrives at the LZ the patient is not packaged.

So what does a few minutes mean in these cases?

Let's just agree to disagree and move on.

does not mean we can't discuss the topic in a mature fashion.

kenisned · #13 (**permalink**) 10-07-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by r60

90% of the time a ship arrives at the LZ the patient is not packaged.

So what does a few minutes mean in these cases?

Let's just agree to disagree and move on.

Not sure who you are posting in response to.

Are you advocating for less medevacs? As you posted, that a few minutes doesn't matter.