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Old 11-04-2009, 04:31 PM
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Default Need Two Tone 453.150 Union County Plz

Hey there all.

Anyone have the tone pair for paging Union County Mutual Aid?

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Just speculation, however it is eerily close to Bergenfield, NJ's FD general tones... A 569.1/B 600.9... Again, just speculation, but you may wanna give that a shot.
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Old 11-07-2009, 02:35 PM
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Default The two tone combo has been found.

MFR465 you have good ears.Close.

Thanks to Audacity (freeware) with the plugins I was able to
figure the two tone combo out with out with ease.

Union County Fire Mutual Aid Tones are

575hz 600hz

Time to load up F2 in my Minitor V with silent scan.
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:08 PM
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The two tones you posted are not valid tone sets. Chris is probably right on the money. The two tone sets he gave you are valid Quick call 2 tone sets. Your sets neither fit into either Quick call 2 or Plectron tones or any other manufacturer. Most agencies use either Quick call 2 tone sets or Plectron tone sets. Programs like audacity are usually a few hertz off. Even the BCD996XT is a couple of hertz off.
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Old 11-07-2009, 11:28 PM
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A few hertz off shouldn't matter. I've gone up to 10 hz off on some pagers and still had reliable decoding.
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A few hertz off shouldn't matter. I've gone up to 10 hz off on some pagers and still had reliable decoding.
True. I had a similar situation with tones being a few hertz off. A town nearby uses plectron tones of 1910.0 and 910.0, I had originally used 1930.2 and 903.2 in my TK2180 and it always activated. However it would never trip in my old BCD996T in fire tone out mode. I upgraded to a 996XT which has tone reading capabilities and it showed 1899.0 and 909.0 as the tones. I programmed 1910.0 and 910.0 and the 996 now trips and the TK2180 works fine with the correct tones.
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:29 AM
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Default Th exact tones are

Motorola Tone pairs Tone A 569.1 Tone B 600.9

These are Tone numbers 120 & 121.

Thanks to all and especially MFR465 for the initial response.

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Just to have a little fun with this...the 575.0 you initially measured using Audacity is very close to GE 577.5 "G05". The closest GE tones to 600.0 are 592.5 "G06" and 607.5 "G07", making it likely that it is indeed Motorola 600.9 "121". It's entirely possible that they are using a mixture of the tone plans, GE and Motorola QCII. You should see some of the bastardized tone combinations used in Rockland and Orange, it would make your head spin! Mixtures of Motorola QCI and QCII, Plectron, GE, Federal, Reach, Bramco and even a few completely custom tones all mixed together, sometimes in the same two-tone sequence, with no rhyme or reason.

While I agree with Alarmguy that Audacity is usually off by a little bit, it may've been closer than you think in this case. I don't think it would nail the 600.9 second tone almost exact, but be off by almost 6 Hz for the first tone. The tones are too close together for that much variation between them. Of course, a lot of factors come into play when measuring them in Audacity, not the least of which is the quality and format of the recording you're measuring, as well as what settings you're using in Audacity to measure them. The PL/DPL can also throw the tones off a bit.
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