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Old 12-05-2012, 9:35 PM
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What kind of radios? UFH, VHF? Old system or the 700 system?
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Old 12-07-2012, 1:41 AM
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PSIC?, I'm sorry for asking but what is "PSIC" ?
Is it digital or analog or encrypited or can I still listen to NFD?
Sorry for the stupid question.
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Old 12-07-2012, 7:45 AM
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It's the state's new 700MHz P25 system. You can listen to it now with a modern digital scanner, but when the system is fully deployed, it will be Phase-II TDMA.

I'm telling people I'm close to that they should wait and see what Uniden is going to bring to market in the first-half of 2013 before they spend their money (many were scared-off of the PSR-800 after GRE USA was forced to close their doors).
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:26 PM
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Let me guess....
I bought a Uniden BCD996XT digital scanner 2 months ago maybe 3.
But I know my luck, I wasted $500 bucks and won't be able to hear any 700 freq or P25 on now.
Well that's my luck, and I bet the new scanner that will pick it up will cost me another $500 to $800 bucks.
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On the contrary, the 996 will do 700 P25 just fine, just not Phase-II P25.

Federal grant rules for these 700 systems stipulate the system must be Phase-II by the time the deployment is complete. There is very few TG's on the PSIC network that are TDMA now, but that will change...
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I wonder if Uniden can issue a firmware upgrade that would allow the BCD996XT (and its portable version) to be able to monitor P25 Phase 2 to help out guys in Bronco's boat.
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I wonder if Uniden can issue a firmware upgrade that would allow the BCD996XT (and its portable version) to be able to monitor P25 Phase 2 to help out guys in Bronco's boat.
Not possible.

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Old 12-07-2012, 8:07 PM
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So in short if the Newark Police and fire goes to phase 25 700Mhz I won't be able to monitor them using my Pro-197? That would stink considering the amount of activity the wonderful city of Newark brings to the airwaves!! I probably would have to sell my 197 and get one that would monitor that type of system. I think if I remember correctly there is only one scanner on the market currently that does decrypt that system?!
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Old 12-08-2012, 7:47 AM
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I think if I remember correctly there is only one scanner on the market currently that does decrypt that system?!
Well, not decrypt. It's not encrypted (lets not go there). But the PSR-800 firmware update came out of nowhere including true Phase II capability. Nobody saw that one coming, and a lot of people flushed money down the drain on newer Unidens thinking we'd be waiting forever for ANYONE to come out with a Phase II capable scanner. I'm one of them. Remember too, GRE stopped production and basically went out of business. Though now they're making a push to restart the business.

Back on-topic though, I think the fact that radios have been issued to companies for testing, and not just line officers is telling. Think it shows NFD may be seriously considering this. I imagine there'd need to be a Newark city site though. West Orange has some decent range, but I could reasonably foresee there being issues.
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Something is odd here with talkgroup 1041 and site 103,its showing active on Pro96Com with Phase 2 comms however when I look at my Pro-106 display its showing the TGID and a voice channel of 868.98750, is this normal?
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:05 AM
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Just had a Site 107 showing up on 774.68125 in Site Trunking mode, with a hit on a REMU TG: 2561 NJSP REMU 3, was someone talking but didn't get enough to get any context. Now it's off the air. It was a decent signal, obviously no where near the West Orange site though.

I have that frequency in as part of the Union County 700 system, per the DB. And looking at the Union system in the DB this was broadcasting the alternate CC's for that entry as well

Here's a dump from Pro96Com:
System ID : 39A
System Name :
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-7
Tower Number (Hex) : T0107
Tower Description :
Control Capabilities : Voice,Registration
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Wed Feb 6 10:02:43 2013

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#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
00,851.00625,0.00625,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.00625,1
01,762.00625,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.00625, 1
02,851.01250,0.01250,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
03,762.00625,0.01250,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250, 2

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#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"01-1504","a",771.40625,"01-1504",801.40625,0,0
"01-1716","a",772.73125,"01-1716",802.73125,1,0
"01-1832","a",773.45625,"01-1832",803.45625,1,0
"01-2028","c",774.68125,"01-2028",804.68125,1,0

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Old 02-06-2013, 10:07 AM
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Pro-106 does not know how to handle TDMA talkgroups, may be this is why it is showing some funky stuff. When in doubt refer to Pro96Com for system activity.

The DAT and LNK you seeing are GPS data packet updates.
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Ok thanks,I'm hoping to order a PSR-800 soon so I can start monitoring Phase 2!
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Old 02-06-2013, 1:48 PM
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Now it's off the air.
And now it's back, still in Site Trunking
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The signal was from inside Union County Courthouse. The Union County P25 Phase II is technically going to be part of PSIC as I understand it. Site 107 should be atop the courthouse in Elizabeth. Watch for peers cause Mountainside and Plainfield should be up for simulcast testing any day. They're only flipping the power switch during testing so nobody gets any wise ideas about avoiding the bosses ears. OEM, UCPD, UCSD all already have their radios ready to go.

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Just had a Site 107 showing up on 774.68125 in Site Trunking mode, with a hit on a REMU TG: 2561 NJSP REMU 3, was someone talking but didn't get enough to get any context. Now it's off the air. It was a decent signal, obviously no where near the West Orange site though.
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3347 was pretty active today. Police related traffic.

maybe this thread should be a sticky in the nj forum since this system seems to be the biggest radio change in the last ten years or so.
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Old 02-21-2013, 6:34 AM
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3347 is C3-23 CIB. Seems like most if not all the NJSP talkgroups have corresponding talkgroups on 700. I have picked up many of the patrol talkgroups at one time or another, usually only for a short time. My guess this will change as new radios are rolled out.

Just this morning I heard B2-4 for a few minutes.
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How about 3445? I see it was active today looking at site 103 data.
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Old 02-22-2013, 8:33 AM
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3445 is 55120 on the 800 side. That is a talk group they use for testing.

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New Jersey “is in the process of implementing a new statewide Project 25 (P25)
digital trunked system in the 700 MHz frequency band,” which will “provide interoperable
communications between multiple jurisdictions and multiple Public Safety disciplines throughout the
state.”10 “To enhance interoperability between state and local public safety agencies, [New Jersey] plans
to implement a deployable temporary trunked repeater system.”11 However, New Jersey states that
“[i]nsufficient State assigned narrowband channels exist to support both the system’s fixed infrastructure
and the deployable system.”

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