NJ Public Safety Interoperability Communications (PSIC) 700 MHz Network

[chiefjohnson]

Does anyone know if the state will be leasing any space on the new 700 system or on the old 800 system to private entities? Thanks in advance

[wildbillx]

Quick question- I am down in the North Cape May area and was doing a search of the 700's. I found 773.31125 as a control ch. Running unitrunker it is coming up as PSIC site 001-006 however that site is not listed. Any input? I am using a psr-500 and getting about 60- 80% decode with an outside antenna.

[Chauffeur6]

Originally Posted by wildbillx

Quick question- I am down in the North Cape May area and was doing a search of the 700's. I found 773.31125 as a control ch. Running unitrunker it is coming up as PSIC site 001-006 however that site is not listed. Any input? I am using a psr-500 and getting about 60- 80% decode with an outside antenna.

Ah, very interesting, you may've found the Wildwood site. The frequency is off a bit, though...did you mean 773.33125?

What are the other frequencies Unitrunker is showing for that site? A few should be showing as Alternate Control Channels, and you may see a Voice Channel pop up as well. Also, what sites are showing on the Peers tab, and what NAC is showing up on the Info tab?

If that is the Wildwood site, which I suspect it is based on your location, you should probably see 001-004 and 001-005 as Peer sites. 001-005 for certain.

[wildbillx]

Ok, well after playing a little this is what I have. Site 001-006 control 01-1808 (773.30875) channel access P2 NAC 000 profile -1.#J this is all under info tab. Peers 001-004 and 001-005. LCN 01-1188 769.43125
01-1232 769.70625 01-1394 770.71875 01-1768 773.05626 01-1808 773.30875. Let me know what else you need. I only used unitrunker a few times.

[Chauffeur6]

That's awesome, Bill, thanks!

The control channel 773.30875 should be showing up in red text, three of them should be in gold text, and one should be in white text. The gold text are the alternate control channels, and the white text is the voice channel. Can you let me know which are which, please?

[wildbillx]

769.43125 is voice while all but 773.30875 are alter. Also the call sign is WPTZ794

[Chauffeur6]

Outstanding. I forgot that GRE scanners won't pass the NAC to Unitrunker, I just have to remember how we can get that, but it's not a big deal either way. Great work, Bill, looks like we found the last of the sites for this system!

[wildbillx]

I think the NAC is 394 which shows up on the scanner when in tune on the channel. P25: 394

[Chauffeur6]

Yup, that would be it. Thanks again.

[Chauffeur6]

Just a minor correction for the Wildwood site, the CC is 773.30625, not .30875. Thanks again to Bill for finding all of that info!

[RadioDitch]

Originally Posted by chiefjohnson

Does anyone know if the state will be leasing any space on the new 700 system or on the old 800 system to private entities? Thanks in advance

On the 800, I doubt it. On the 700, definitely not. It would violate the terms and intentions of the grants that funded the system.

Also...remind me here since I'm having a brainfart and forgot. What does it indicate when a radio shows forced under affiliation in Pro96Com?

[elias1988]

Originally Posted by RadioDitch

Also...remind me here since I'm having a brainfart and forgot. What does it indicate when a radio shows forced under affiliation in Pro96Com?

PRO96COM - Forced?

Data shown from site 103:
"03/16 23:40:15","Forced",0,"",42659,""
"03/16 23:40:15","2D 00 00 00 00 A6 A3 FF FF FE 1A CF ","Unit Registration Command -> 42659"

[GM]

I saw some of the recent updates with locations of tower sites and frequency designations. Great work to all (remember, this is a team effort to benefit everyone). I do have an question about a recent observation. I noticed earlier today that on the grounds of the Middlesex County Fire Academy (near Exit 125 on the GSP), there is a new communications tower being built on the grounds of the Fire Academy, and that it looks like it will be a good 200 feet + in the air. Will this be another fill-in type site for coverage gaps in the Middlesex County area for the NJ PSIC 700 MHz TRS, or will this be for the Middlesex County EDACS/future OpenSky2 TRS only?

[Chauffeur6]

It's for the Middlesex County system. Here's a map of the sites for Middlesex County (blue markers) along with the two closest PSIC sites (red markers).

[elias1988]

Picked this up on site 103,could this be a radio and talkgroups for another county?


"03/18 15:27:22","Affiliate",4181,"T: 103 DT: 3/18/13@15:27",1200001,"TG: 4169 DT: 3/18/13@12:32"
"03/18 15:27:25","Affiliate",4183,"T: 103 DT: 3/18/13@15:27",1200001,"TG: 4169 DT: 3/18/13@12:32"
"03/18 15:27:26","Affiliate",4193,"T: 103 DT: 3/18/13@15:27",1200001,"TG: 4169 DT: 3/18/13@12:32"
"03/18 15:27:35","Affiliate",4199,"T: 103 DT: 1/29/13@11:56",1200001,"TG: 4169 DT: 3/18/13@12:32"
"03/18 15:27:38","Affiliate",4169,"T: 103 DT: 1/8/13@14:10",1200001,"TG: 4169 DT: 3/18/13@12:32"

[Chauffeur6]

Originally Posted by elias1988

Picked this up on site 103,could this be a radio and talkgroups for another county?

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're asking..."another county" as in something similar to how Somerset is using the system for their DPW operations?

[CastorLB]

IF Middlesex was testing on the PSIC that would make sense that a radio ID would be 1200xxx. All Somerset units seem to be 1800xxx ID's and 1800 is the municipal code for Somerset County as 1200 is for Middlesex. I wonder if the same pattern would follow if individual towns came on board. I can only monitor Site 023 (Telegraph Hill) from my house and did not receive the 1200001 affiliation while running Pro96Com all day while I was at work. I receive the Somerset units, DOT, some NJSP CIB, what sounds like NJSP operating on the Bayshore on StateCom 3 North and I get radios affiliating on the Fairfield PD talkgroups.

Maybe I'm slipping but I think 023 is linked to more sites then I recall from the last couple weeks; I'm showing 023 linked to 001, 002, 003, 007 and 034.

[elias1988]

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Originally Posted by Chauffeur6

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're asking..."another county" as in something similar to how Somerset is using the system for their DPW operations?

Yes another county like how Somerset is set up.

[CastorLB]

So according to Pro96com, the Telegraph Hill site logged a second control channel today 770.54375. It was not listed as an alternate, voice or data channel but a control channel and it is not active right now. So now I have seven frequencies for this site. Unfortunately I was not home during the day to monitor and get more information.

[Chauffeur6]

Originally Posted by CastorLB

So according to Pro96com, the Telegraph Hill site logged a second control channel today 770.54375. It was not listed as an alternate, voice or data channel but a control channel and it is not active right now. So now I have seven frequencies for this site. Unfortunately I was not home during the day to monitor and get more information.

Something odd is going on, because 770.54375 is not a frequency allocated for usage by the state. It's allocated to Passaic County in Region 8, and Delaware and Northumberland counties in PA in Region 28.

Is your scanner locked on 769.44375, or do you have a bogus talkgroup programmed in so that it will follow any control channel changes? It's weird that it would've even gone over to 770.54375 unless it's programmed in the scanner already, unless Pro96Com incorrectly decoding something.