RadioReference on Facebook   RadioReference on Twitter   RadioReference Blog
 

Go Back   The RadioReference.com Forums > U.S. Regional Radio Discussion Forums > New Jersey Radio Discussion Forum

New Jersey Radio Discussion Forum Forum for discussing Radio Information in the State of New Jersey.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 12-10-2012, 12:54 PM
Moose's Avatar
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 168
Exclamation Drones

A friend called me today to tell me he saw the fire earlier today in Somerset at a strip-mall on Hamilton St. He said he saw a drone flying over the fire scene. Said it appeared to be operated by an outfit called SkyVue. Anyone know about this? Were they there surveying the fire for the FD or was it part of a news outfit?
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
        
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 12-10-2012, 4:43 PM
kb2vxa's Avatar
Completely Banned for the Greater Good
  Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Point Pleasant Beach, N.J.
Posts: 6,127
Default

SkyVue makes videography equipment but has nothing to do with drones. As a matter of fact the FAA hasn't approved them, your friend probably saw a news helicopter. FYI the Welsh Farms store at the far left end of the strip mall was completely destroyed and the fire wall protected the rest.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2012, 4:50 AM
Moose's Avatar
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 168
Default

Hey Warren, glad you made it through the storm. If you mean news helicopter as in the standard size helicopter, no. This was a remote controlled hover type drone. From the picture he sent me it looks to be slightly larger than a basketball.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2012, 9:29 AM
Skypilot007's Avatar
Member
  Shack Photos
Shack photos
Audio Feed Provider
Audio Feed Provider
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Medford, NJ
Posts: 1,600
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moose View Post
Hey Warren, glad you made it through the storm. If you mean news helicopter as in the standard size helicopter, no. This was a remote controlled hover type drone. From the picture he sent me it looks to be slightly larger than a basketball.
Post up the pic....lets see it.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2012, 11:09 AM
kb2vxa's Avatar
Completely Banned for the Greater Good
  Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Point Pleasant Beach, N.J.
Posts: 6,127
Default

It's impossible to determine scale without a point of reference but I'd still like to see what that UFO looked like.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2012, 3:44 PM
W2SJW's Avatar
Senior Member
  RadioReference Database Admininstrator
Database Admin
Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: 07882
Posts: 2,120
Default

Here you go:



It's called a BlackMagic heli-cam.
__________________
Scott
NJ & PA Database Admin
My BCDx36 Files


Last edited by W2SJW; 12-11-2012 at 3:48 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2012, 6:03 PM
kb2vxa's Avatar
Completely Banned for the Greater Good
  Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Point Pleasant Beach, N.J.
Posts: 6,127
Default

Thanks Scott, Bruce PMed me and said he'd post his tomorrow so we'll see if it's the same type.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2012, 6:51 PM
Member
   
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 254
Default

Someone say UFO Wow that is pretty cool though. LOVE AND BLESSINGS
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 12-12-2012, 5:45 AM
Moose's Avatar
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 168
Default

Ok guys, here's the pictures.......
Attached Images
  
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 12-12-2012, 6:00 AM
Member
  Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Peoria, AZ.
Posts: 2,179
Default

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; U; en-US) Gecko/20081217 Vision-Browser/8.1 301x200 LG VN530)

That's the BlackMagic Helicam that W2SJW posted a pic of 3 comments above yours
It looks like it'd be a fun toy to play with lol

Last edited by KB7MIB; 12-12-2012 at 6:01 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 12-12-2012, 8:32 AM
Moose's Avatar
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 168
Default

I'm sure there are a lot of police departments that would love to get their hands on one. I imagine in the future... a call comes into police headquarters about a situation and there are no officers available at that moment to respond. The desk officer then programs the location into the onboard GPS and the drone lifts off and heads to the scene and immediately begins to feed video back to headquarters and to video screens in patrol cars. There could be a built-in PA system where the desk officer can broadcast a message to the effect that police are on their way. I believe they have already been used in some countries to monitor and photgraph large groups of people engaged in protests.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 12-12-2012, 8:38 AM
a388sig2's Avatar
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 189
Default

Was it SkyCamUSA's hexacopter?
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 12-12-2012, 8:43 AM
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,925
Default

Those have been around for a while, and are pretty amazing machines:

The Hexacopter: Awesome flying machine. [VIDEO]


hexacopter - YouTube
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 12-12-2012, 9:50 AM
902's Avatar
902 902 is offline
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Downsouthsomewhere
Posts: 1,551
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moose View Post
I'm sure there are a lot of police departments that would love to get their hands on one. I imagine in the future... a call comes into police headquarters about a situation and there are no officers available at that moment to respond. The desk officer then programs the location into the onboard GPS and the drone lifts off and heads to the scene and immediately begins to feed video back to headquarters and to video screens in patrol cars. There could be a built-in PA system where the desk officer can broadcast a message to the effect that police are on their way. I believe they have already been used in some countries to monitor and photgraph large groups of people engaged in protests.
Nifty to be sure, and I can see it giving situational awareness to an incident commander, but imagine in the future the building inspector or tax assessor has one of these and steers it above people's back yards looking for violations and things that could raise their property taxes. Cut your tree down? Did you get a permit to remove it? Did you hire a licensed contractor ('cause the tree guys gave to the councilmen's campaigns and now the ordinances say you're not allowed to do it yourself)? With how towns are these days, they'd consider it a means of collecting more revenue and it would be encouraged. One worse than that - the doozlebirds on the subdivision board get one because the geezer with the clipboard who drove around in his Cadillac writing people up for having boats in their yard or antennas on their house died. Their use is not regulated and that pretty much means anyone can do whatever they'd like with them until a judge says they can't. I'm not sure I weigh in on the side of using these things.

I'm pro-law enforcement and would prefer one of these things in a hazardous environment over putting officers or firefighters into harm's way, but for any other time, our legislators need to look at this issue and people's privacy. No way I think we should be using these to justify less cops on the street or boosting revenue because of poor municipal planning/budgeting (think red light cameras, more or less the same issue). I used to be an early adopter of technology, but the older I get, the more convinced I am that technology is not our friend.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 12-12-2012, 11:16 AM
Skypilot007's Avatar
Member
  Shack Photos
Shack photos
Audio Feed Provider
Audio Feed Provider
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Medford, NJ
Posts: 1,600
Default

If I saw one of them hovering over my house the rifle would be coming out.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 12-12-2012, 11:43 AM
fourthhorseman's Avatar
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: 553' Above Sea Level!
Posts: 1,420
Default

sure enough youll get a bill from the city for destroying it...lol...still...may be worth it!
__________________
Yep..Got some radios..I can hear lotsa stuff...

Last edited by fourthhorseman; 12-12-2012 at 11:46 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 12-12-2012, 6:10 PM
kb2vxa's Avatar
Completely Banned for the Greater Good
  Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Point Pleasant Beach, N.J.
Posts: 6,127
Default

Yup, that's the one in Scott's photo for sure, turns out he was right. Methinks it was at the fire scene as part of News 12's ENG taking aerial video, flight control being in the SkyVue truck. If you've ever seen the inside of an ENG truck you'd see nowhere to put anything more.

I can see a practical use for law enforcement, in limited instances it is far less expensive than an air unit to operate. I say limited because of limited operational range, the ground operator would have to be close by plus it only has a daylight camera or FLIR, not both due to weight restrictions. No way a Night Sun can even be considered. Still like robots already in use it has a practical application.
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 12-12-2012, 6:47 PM
Signal-Zero's Avatar
NY / NJ Moderator
   
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: NY / NJ
Posts: 1,264
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skypilot007 View Post
If I saw one of them hovering over my house the rifle would be coming out.
LMAO !

I could imagine that thing flying around Newark....they already took pop shots at the red light cams !
__________________
Forum Rules and Guidelines
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 12-12-2012, 6:48 PM
a388sig2's Avatar
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 189
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by e911god View Post
LMAO !

I could imagine that thing flying around Newark....they already took pop shots at the red light cams !
People shoot at the red light cameras? That's outstanding!
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 12-13-2012, 4:43 AM
Member
  Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Peoria, AZ.
Posts: 2,179
Default

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; U; en-US) Gecko/20081217 Vision-Browser/8.1 301x200 LG VN530)

A guy here in AZ was arrested for murder when he took a pot shot at a speed camera mounted in an occupied vehicle and killed the operator in the vehicle so no, it's not awesome. Any stray round can kill an innocent bystander a long ways downrange.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 2:45 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
All information here is Copyright 2012 by RadioReference.com LLC and Lindsay C. Blanton III.Ad Management by RedTyger
Copyright 2011 by RadioReference.com LLC Privacy Policy  |  Terms and Conditions