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Old 12-26-2012, 8:27 PM
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The Record (newspaper) has reported that Bergen County plans to offer its municipalities "free" 911 call answering and radio dispatch services.

For months, rumors have been circulating that the County's new Mahwah communications center was extremely underutilized. That is, more capacity than existing 911 and radio dispatch clients.

County Executive Kathleen Donovan was reportedly embarrassed that the County had spent so much money on a facility that wasn't being used.

I guess it will get used now; no local politician could possibly justify to his or her taxpayer base why they would spend money for a service the County is giving away for free.

This could signal the end to Northwest Bergen Central Dispatch, and any PSAP centers being operated by other municipalities (e.g., Paramus).

Bergen mulls offering free dispatching - NorthJersey.com

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Even when offered for free some Mayors are complaininig that it costs too much - ? !
In the coming months Teaneck PD studying to move to county dispatch - not if but when
FD says it cant work
BTW where does the 911 fee collected from us go to?
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While I can't speak for Central, I can assure you that before that "place" was built, a study was completed (prompted by the county) to see if it was feasible to even go through with the project. While it was done anyway, the study said (in a few less words), 'why bother, when in all reality Paramus might as well take over what you're trying to do'. (Just something to keep in mind)

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will Paramus do it for free? wont you need to expand $$ the comm room? and how much is it going to cost Paramus to upgrade to digital this new year? are the present towns going to pay for your upgrade?

I wonder if this county 'free' offer is to get to see you is really serious about sharing services and if not which towns will get less state money
As has been ask before - whats in the water? why is it so hard and years of talking and studies - some over 30 years old about merging and sharing? why
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That study was quite a few years ago...... so where anyone stands on that platform is beyond me. I will reiterate, "you get what you pay for".

Merging/sharing services is one thing... having competent dispatchers to staff it is another.
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That study was quite a few years ago...... so where anyone stands on that platform is beyond me. I will reiterate, "you get what you pay for".

Merging/sharing services is one thing... having competent dispatchers to staff it is another.
With respect to "you get what you pay for," although municipalities would not be billed directly for their use of the proposed County provided 911 call answering and radio dispatch services, it is anticipated that County taxes would be increased to fund the added salaries and equipment purchases. Thus, all County taxpayers would be in effect "paying." There is no such thing as a free lunch.
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That study was quite a few years ago...... so where anyone stands on that platform is beyond me. I will reiterate, "you get what you pay for".

Merging/sharing services is one thing... having competent dispatchers to staff it is another.
Fundamentally I agree with you, but I've seen this battle fought over and over in other parts of the country. Every case has ended with home rule being trumped by expense, without exception. How it plays is that the chief officer, be it fire or police, is confronted either by overwhelming political force (the chief is an "at will" employee and serves at the pleasure of the administration), or there are decisions made between retaining dispatching services OR retaining officers/firefighters. Then, there's a promise to have a board of governance that the chief would either sit on, or have representation in, and finally, after some years, it becomes a "Hey, WE pay the bills so WE will implement the procedures" autonomy.

Most of the time it's an amicable thing in the latter stages, but sometimes there's the staging for... imperialism (for the lack of a better word). Now that you have dispatch, you have the ability to gather response statistics, including how long it takes officers/firefighters/EMS to get on scene and in contact with whomever from the time the call is received until contact is made. With all that raw data, stats can be derived to imply that a certain department can be regionalized (just like dispatch was) to a county sheriff, or in Bergen Co's case, the county police. Same arguments. Save money. No impact in response time.

So, why do these things work? Pretty predictably, at that. Because public safety fails to create its own body of knowledge. In the absence of facts that can refute the bottom line issue (money), the bottom line always wins. At least in bad fiscal times. When there's lots of money and certainty in revenue, politics can trump expense. Why? It's because there's nothing conclusive that says, "Because I have my own (dispatch center, police department, fire department), my people are better off in X, Y, and Z ways, even if it costs more money upfront." Think about this: if a community's own dispatching operation provides a better ISO rating than that from a higher unit of government's dispatching operation, that means the taxpayers might be paying more in taxes, but that's balanced out or even outweighed by the amount of money they're paying for insurance. Looking at the big picture, counting all of the nickels and dimes that go to other services, not just municipal taxes might be what has to be done - if there's a case to be built. Then someone can say, well, yes, it costs me an extra $3/yr in taxes, but if I weren't paying that, I'd be paying an extra $150/yr in insurance. When we only look with blinders you only see one thing at a time. It's easy to say "cut it."

Our politicians work that way, too. They see a small victory for themselves, making themselves look good. Put another way, eliminating trash pickup and allowing private carting companies looks like you saved all that money in taxes. Then you have to go out and hire a garbage hauler and you pay them directly. That's not a 100% corollary, politicians thinking about dispatching services and garbage pickup, but it's the same mindset. What's saved is traded off somewhere else - and out of some other budget.

What ends up happening is that the regionalized dispatchers end up being generalists. They ansewer the phones and radio just fine. The difference is that they will rely on CAD and GIS for their location information and RMS for their local knowledge because they may live somewhere other than the area they're dispatching for, or be working a different section that shift. The units themselves will have to shoulder the local knowledge... unless they're in a big organization themselves.
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I agree; home rule will be trumped by expense in most cases.

Years ago, this may not have been the case. However, taxes are high now and the economy is still in the crapper. Taxpayers will not stand for politicians who waste money needlessly. No mayor will be able to say "I want to spend $100k a year or more on dispatchers' salaries because I don't like giving up control to the County." Such a comment will surely be remembered at the voting booth.
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