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I was out at the range today with my good friend that's a Montclair officer - he said the deal is all but done for the transition to NJICS. He said REMU even loaned them some radios in case the system goes down again!

He said the issues were so bad with street-level operations & constant denial 'bonks' upon transmitting that the department called in PEOSH & they cited the town over it!
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Is the FD joining NJICS too, or will they remain on the same analog frequency?
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Old 01-09-2014, 5:47 PM
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Hey Scott, was there any timeline discussed as to when they may be migrating? I have just started logging the NJICS sytem and am eager to see this happen. I assume the testing phase has been completed?

Thanks for the update, keep 'em coming!

As for the FD, I would think they will remain on their analog system, works very well for them. I have not heard one instance of the FD and the PD ever directly communicating, so sharing bands wouldn't be an issue either.
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This just spotted on northjersey.com:

Report proposes $1 million Montclair police radio upgrade - NorthJersey.com
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It says the current radio system is experiencing interference from a CT television station. Does anyone know what TV station? This is the first time I have ever heard of that complaint, and it seems odd that a TV station from that far away would be strong enough to cause interference.

Besides, shouldn't an analysis have been done before they started using that system, as it seems that type of interference should have shown up ahead of time...If I was a Montclair taxpayer I would not be happy about this.
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When you're talking transmission towers on mountains or high elevations, from here to CT really isn't that far at all. Especially during summertime ducting. A good example is Ocean County's 500 trunk system being interfered by TV stations in MA and CT which is even further away.
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When you're talking transmission towers on mountains or high elevations, from here to CT really isn't that far at all. Especially during summertime ducting. A good example is Ocean County's 500 trunk system being interfered by TV stations in MA and CT which is even further away.
I agree, I just don't see how the company that installed their system couldn't have realized that ahead of time. Don't they do some kind of field study before the system is up and running? If I was a town leader in Montclair I would really feel ripped off. Now they have to blow another million dollars of taxpayer money to get on a new system, and taxes in Montclair are already astronomically high.
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I agree, I just don't see how the company that installed their system couldn't have realized that ahead of time. Don't they do some kind of field study before the system is up and running? If I was a town leader in Montclair I would really feel ripped off. Now they have to blow another million dollars of taxpayer money to get on a new system, and taxes in Montclair are already astronomically high.
Things got more complicated in terms of interference once the DTV switch over took place. I don't know how long Montclair's current 500 MHz system has been in service but it is possible this interference was not as rampant at the time of development.
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They started using it in October of 2005 if I remember right.
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Anyone know what these TGs are? This is from the past few days of logs:

(On the current UHF type II system)
784 - 274 hits
1840 - 82 hits
1808 - 44 hits
4016 - 11 hits
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Montclair just approved the radio purchases. My buddy on the department tells me they are considering Moto & Tait.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/2412...?mobile=1&ic=1

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Default looks like montclair might join 700mhz

I wonder if they will go Phase 2 or Phase 1. Encrypted or not? We shall see in a few months I guess
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I sure hope it's 1 and no enc! It's a good thing to know when the crazies are out.

Thanks for the info Scott.
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If things follow the way that Newark FD went, I think the state might enforce TDMA operation (since they are purchasing brand-new radios from the start).

Fairfield was brought on FDMA due to the fact they already had 800MHz radios, but of an older generation.
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Default looks like montclair might join 700mhz

Looks like the cash is flowing. Time to start looking for new talkgroups!

http://baristanet.com/2014/03/montcl...-snow-removal/



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anyone have any updates?
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I wonder if they tried running their present system in analog if things would improve. Anyway, I understand it will be August before we see any progress on their joining NJICS.


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Default looks like montclair might join 700mhz

That is an excellent idea actually. The DPW is using the same system but analog -- I've never once heard them repeat themselves. Is P25 UDP or TCP?
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Another news article about Montclair's planned move to 700 MHz:

Montclair public safety agencies seek radio synchronicity - Nation - NorthJersey.com
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Another news article about Montclair's planned move to 700 MHz:

Montclair public safety agencies seek radio synchronicity - Nation - NorthJersey.com
The article gives an example that Montclair FD is unable to communicate with West Orange FD. Isn't that the purpose of the Essex County Fire mutual aid frequency?
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