ABQSCAN: Cruces - Feb - WSMR?

[ILikeHatchChili]

Have you been to Cruces last month and found out anything about WSMR trunking?
Thanks
Peter

[abqscan]

Nope... I haven't had the time to sit down there to figure it out =(

[andrew_m]

I would help out too, but I moved to Albuq....

[lcistech]

Good day. I just got back from 6 weeks in the Fort Bliss/WSMR area (mostly at the Dona Ana base camp). I monitored the 6C30 system with a pro 96. I forgot the different control ch freqs but using a base freq of 406.1125, offset 380 and 12.5 KHz spacing I copied the system very well. I'm not sure that's what you were talking about but there's the info in case anybody needs to know.

73s
Rob

[ILikeHatchChili]

Thanks, I'll give it a try... but not in the next few days. BTW, are they still using a mix of analog and P25 voice?

[lcistech]

I heard a 60/40 mix of analog/digital. Logged about 50 TGs.

[ILikeHatchChili]

Would be nice if you could post/revise/update the Dona Ana frequencies database, along with the talkgroups. Thanks

[abqscan]

Rob, did you write down any TG's????

[lcistech]

Here are the TGs I logged. I only text tagged the ones I really knew for sure what they were. I had the advantage of being issued an XTS 5000 for the duration of my time there. I'm a Canadian Army Comms Technician and the units I've listed are from Petawawa Ontario.

47328 2 Signal Sqn
47392 2 Engineer Regt
47360 Royal Canadian Dragoons
14816
37088
47440
14992
13776
47376 2 Service Bn
46144
47040
47280 2 MP Coy
12736
12416
12688 Range Control
14256
12336
14768
12288
13440
36912
15040
14736
37952
53712
54800
12784
12992
13568
37344
37072
14064
37904
47312
47296
39120
39088
47344
47216
14576

[ILikeHatchChili]

Rob, thanks for the TG's. What control frequencies you were using?
Peter

[lcistech]

I wish I'd kept better notes. 409.1125 MHz was the CC in DA (I think). It was probably different while I was on Fort Bliss proper working at the railhead. I'm pretty much a CC only kind of guy (esp with the Pro 96). I know you can get burned sometimes with this (like the El Paso 3802 sys when they rotate CCs) . Of minor note when I was there, it was around 25 Feb when the 6C30 reverted to site trunking for about 30 hrs due to what I learned later was a fiber optics gettting cut.


Rob

[ILikeHatchChili]

You know what? Today, I used the two control frequencies ABQSCAN posted a while back for the 6C30 system (409.3625 and 408.5875) and also the base frequency of 406.1125 that you gave in your first post in this thread. I put these numbers in my BCD396T (in control channel only mode) and got both analog and digital voice conversations. Thank you, Rob and Erik. I will use the old set of talkgroups I used in my analog voice PRO97. They are:

Master Control 10128
Fire/EMS 12336
MP Central 12416
WS Range Rider 14768
WS Rough Rider 12768
Range Safety 12992
Range Control1 12688
Range Control2 12288
Range Control 3 12784
Range User1 13328
Range User2 10160
Range User3 13344
Range User4 12864
Range User5 12784
Range User6 09296
Range User7 14784
Range User 8 12768
Range User 9 13776
PM Info 28/29 08656

The above TGs are for the analog transmissions I heard before (before WSMR changed base frequencies and control frequencies) in the PRO97.
The Range Users are projects and post customers like you folks Rob.
I can't see how you got the base frequency correctly from only the control channel and perhaps a few voice channels. How did you ever figure that one out? Great job.
Peter

[lcistech]

After a base freq of 406 MHz didn't work, I just worked up from there in 12.5 KHz steps until the PRO 96 tracked the system properly. It was trial and error.

[abqscan]

Great work Peter, and thank Rob for your brains! Now start logging the new digital TG's

[dgoodson]

I am trying to get this to work from Alamogordo using 396T. I don't really understand the relationship between band plan and frequencies entered, I've tried several combos with no luck.

I hear two equally strong control channels, 407.075 and 408.0875. I put my radio in old fashioned CONVENTIONAL search mode, and quickly discovered a bunch of active freqs, which I assume go with these control channels (406. 1125, . 15, .3625, .5625, .7625, .775, .9625, 407.1625, .5625 (and I quit searching after these, I imagine there are more).

It did not seem to me that any of this matched the database data for sites. I put the cc's and the active freqs in the freguency bank, and put some of the base freq tries (406.0 406.1125) in the band plan set up, but I never got anything. I need to buy a vowel, I think I am just poking in the dark.

TAI

dg

[ILikeHatchChili]

Hi,
I have a 396T also. Unlike the Radio Shack pro 95 and 97 (and I assume the 96), you have to specify CC only (control channel only) trunking with the Uniden.

Try that if you have not already...

I cant hear the two control channels from Las Cruces, but that does not mean that they are not there.

Hope that helps.
Peter

[john_in_lc]

I am looking to hook up with a scanner enthusiast in Las Cruces to compare notes. My e-mail address is
ke5jwc@yahoo.com

Thanks!!