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Old 09-19-2017, 2:41 PM
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One thing to be aware of with a really long wire antenna, is the tendency to overload portable shortwave receivers. Simply put, there's too much signal for the radio to efficiently handle. The result is phantom signals from more powerful broadcasters appearing as ghostly echos throughout the shortwave bands. I experienced this many years ago when I used my Sony ICF-2010, an excellent portable in it's day, with an outdoor long wire antenna. That's why I suggest limiting the wire length at this point. Also, if erecting a horizontally-mounted outdoor antenna yields too much interference, you may try reorienting the antenna in a different direction, if you can.
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I will try the wire to the antenna next.
NO! There is a very sensitive transistor at the base of the whip antenna which you can pop quite easily with too much wire joined to it - the radio will then be totally deaf to all shortwave transmissions.

Use the proper SW antenna connection every time. I'm surprised you didn't get a wire antenna with the correct plug on it when you bought the radio.
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NO! There is a very sensitive transistor at the base of the whip antenna which you can pop quite easily with too much wire joined to it - the radio will then be totally deaf to all shortwave transmissions.

Use the proper SW antenna connection every time. I'm surprised you didn't get a wire antenna with the correct plug on it when you bought the radio.
This model radio does not have an external antenna jack. The only way to connect a longer wire antenna to it is by attaching it to the built-in telescoping whip antenna. Something like the following Sangean ANT-60 portable roll-up shortwave antenna would work.
https://www.universal-radio.com/cata..._ant/3184.html
https://www.amazon.com/Sangean-ANT-6.../dp/B000023VW2

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Here is a link to the User's Guide for this AM/FM/SW Portable radio (Catalog #: 2000658):
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/14...78191407432288
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This model radio does not have a decimal point key. Because of that you have to enter a 0 as the first digit for any frequency you enter that is under 10 MHz. You also have to press the ENTER key before and after the frequency.

Try the following key sequence to tune to 7.445 MHz. The first 0 is important since this frequency is under 10MHz:

ENTER 0 7 4 4 5 ENTER
Got it and entered it right. Still nothing to hear there but I got that entered.
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I finally heard something, y'all! Put the wire on the antenna and got frequency 5040 Banda Tropical out of Cuba and I could hear talking and music. It wasn't super clear but it was people and sounds! Yay!!
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Perfect!
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I finally heard something, y'all! Put the wire on the antenna and got frequency 5040 Banda Tropical out of Cuba and I could hear talking and music. It wasn't super clear but it was people and sounds! Yay!!
And so it begins...
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I finally heard something, y'all! Put the wire on the antenna and got frequency 5040 Banda Tropical out of Cuba and I could hear talking and music. It wasn't super clear but it was people and sounds! Yay!!
Glad you got a signal. Now get a shortwave schedule, and see what else you can tune in.

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Some schedules are too complicated, some don't update frequently enough, some are, well.....

Here's the one I recommend and use all the time....

Go to:

www.eibispace.de

and download the text file on the right hand side under "Last update" - you will see that it's dated 16th September. Now you can just use this text file on it's own, but much better if you drop down the page a bit and download "eibiview.zip" . Extract this file to any where you like, then make a shortcut to it from the file "eibiview30.exe" to your desktop or wherever. Copy the text file that you downloaded above into the Eibiview30 folder.

Now if you click on the shortcut you will get a blurb screen which you just click on 'accept' then you will be given a wonderful world map and the first alphabetical group of stations under the "Adventist World Radio" group. Double click on the blue name at the top of the screen and a drop-down menu appears - now you can play as much as you like. Updates are automatic if you are online.
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Glad to hear you got something. Keep trying and the logbook will fill up quickly...

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My friend who bought me this one may have one that also has a dial - perhaps it'll work better. I can hear a tiny bit out of the BBC but not enough - Cuba at 5040 has been the strongest and even it is weak but it's something. You all are awesome - I enjoy every reply and appreciate it.
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Hi everyone, long time no talk - mostly because I could not really get any reception from what I had. A friend of mine gave me a radio that his father owned. It's a Grundig Classic 960. No idea if it's original or a reproduction but that's not important. What is important is that it works. As soon as I turned it on and dialed around I immediately started getting clear conversations, etc. This is without the antenna he's made me which he forgot to bring. I'm more than thrilled and looking forward to playing with it more. I've read reviews that it's not that great of a radio but I could care less simply because the darn thing works.

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Well done - now you have been really bitten! What you have now is usually called an 'analog' radio as distinct from your 'digital' one before - now you can just twiddle the knob and find stations without actually knowing the frequency first - now you can have fun!
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Uh oh-already got another radio-stay away from catalogs and websites of suppliers of shortwave equipment and antennas- the equipment somehow gets attached to you and follows you home -then you wind up with multiple receivers and antennas all over the back yard-been happening to me since the late 70's

Yes a tuning knob is much better for just tuning the band..
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It's very important to get a good antenna for listening to SW. I don't know your situation (apartment, house, etc) but I have a Radiowavz 80 OCF (a little pricey, but works great) . There is an old axiom in the radio world it goes like this: "It's better to have a thousand dollar antenna and a ten dollar radio than a thousand dollar radio and a ten dollar antenna".
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Hi everyone, long time no talk - mostly because I could not really get any reception from what I had. A friend of mine gave me a radio that his father owned. It's a Grundig Classic 960. No idea if it's original or a reproduction but that's not important. What is important is that it works. As soon as I turned it on and dialed around I immediately started getting clear conversations, etc. This is without the antenna he's made me which he forgot to bring. I'm more than thrilled and looking forward to playing with it more. I've read reviews that it's not that great of a radio but I could care less simply because the darn thing works.
My first exposure to shortwave was listening to my father's Grundig Majestic, circa 1960. I believe it was a model 4006. The SW tuning dial face was populated with the names of many exotic-sounding locales around the globe. He had connected a simple wire antenna which was mounted along the peak of our roof. Early Sunday mornings were spent listening to Radio Australia on 9580 kHz, which only recently went off the air.
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Yes, portables can easily be overloaded by too much antenna, and sometimes that little 'DX/Local' switch is either too much or too little attenuation to help. This is a great starter project - easy to build, with minimum tools - that will add a gain control, as well as a bit of static protection for the front end of the radio. Be sure to read the entire thread.

https://forums.radioreference.com/re...r-project.html

We need to know a bit more about your situation so we can recommend a better antenna - most importantly, can you get something outside, away from the home, or are you a cave dweller (living in an apartment or condo)?

We have a dedicated forum for discussing receive antennas here; feel free to post questions here...

https://forums.radioreference.com/re...s-below-30mhz/

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