State Police

dd364 · #1 (**permalink**) 09-19-2009, 03:14 PM

I live near Buffalo and I can't get the state police.Did they move thier frequencies or are they encrypted?I programmed all the frequencies from the database but all I get is silence.

radiodude817 · #2 (**permalink**) 09-19-2009, 04:25 PM

Troup A is still on VHF and Troup T is still on UHF. I am listing to them right now.
Maybe something happened to your antenna?

dd364 · #3 (**permalink**) 09-19-2009, 04:52 PM

Brand new pro-197.I get everything else fine.I can't figure it out.

Saint · #4 (**permalink**) 09-19-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dd364

I live near Buffalo and I can't get the state police.Did they move thier frequencies or are they encrypted?I programmed all the frequencies from the database but all I get is silence.

I live in Fort Erie Ontario and have no problem listening to the State Police out of Buffalo, make sure you have the right frequencies and your scanner is set to FM.
Steve

AEMTKieran · #5 (**permalink**) 09-19-2009, 08:58 PM

The database shows NYSP base frequencies as having PL Tones...they do not have PL tones! Only the mobile units have PL transmit. Disable PL altogether on the SP VHF Frequencies, and use it only on Troop T. Troop T is either 97.4 or 123.0.
Enjoy!

Chauffeur6 · #6 (**permalink**) 09-19-2009, 09:13 PM

For Troop T Buffalo (Thruway), try 453.425 and 453.525 with a PL of 123.0. The Thruway radio system works by alternating the repeater output frequency every other radio tower to provide seamless coverage, so you might pick them up on both frequencies depending on your location.

For Troop A, the Base to Mobile is 155.505 with no PL in use (CSQ). The Mobile to Base frequency is 155.535 with a few different PL's in use. 110.9, 127.3, 146.2, 167.9 and 192.8 are all possibilities depending on who you're listening to.

Your best bet is to program the frequencies without a PL, and use the PL search feature to figure out what they're transmitting with locally. You may have to duplicate the frequencies if multiple PLs are in use for the Mobiles depending on who you want to listen to. Or you can just leave the PL unprogrammed if you want to hear everything on those frequencies.

Unfortunately, the way the NYSP frequencies are entered in the database is horrendous, especially for those who are not familiar with the way they operate full-duplex. Something really needs to be done to address this, because it's just not right the current way. Anyone using software to download and program the NYSP would likely never hear a single transmission because of the way the PL is incorrectly applied to the base frequencies, and the mobiles are incorrectly treated as repeater inputs.

WatnNY · #7 (**permalink**) 09-19-2009, 09:46 PM

I will go take care of this right now. Any other suggestions please let me know.

Saint · #8 (**permalink**) 09-19-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by res6cue_dot_com

For Troop T Buffalo (Thruway), try 453.425 and 453.525 with a PL of 123.0. The Thruway radio system works by alternating the repeater output frequency every other radio tower to provide seamless coverage, so you might pick them up on both frequencies depending on your location.

For Troop A, the Base to Mobile is 155.505 with no PL in use (CSQ). The Mobile to Base frequency is 155.535 with a few different PL's in use. 110.9, 127.3, 146.2, 167.9 and 192.8 are all possibilities depending on who you're listening to.

Your best bet is to program the frequencies without a PL, and use the PL search feature to figure out what they're transmitting with locally. You may have to duplicate the frequencies if multiple PLs are in use for the Mobiles depending on who you want to listen to. Or you can just leave the PL unprogrammed if you want to hear everything on those frequencies.

Unfortunately, the way the NYSP frequencies are entered in the database is horrendous, especially for those who are not familiar with the way they operate full-duplex. Something really needs to be done to address this, because it's just not right the current way. Anyone using software to download and program the NYSP would likely never hear a single transmission because of the way the PL is incorrectly applied to the base frequencies, and the mobiles are incorrectly treated as repeater inputs.

Any one who see any wrong information in data bases and knows the right information to rectify this can easily submit the correct information to help everyone in the future. This is how this web site becomes so important to everyone because we have the correct info being submited. Please submit the info you have to the database.
Steve

Chauffeur6 · #9 (**permalink**) 09-20-2009, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WatnNY

I will go take care of this right now. Any other suggestions please let me know.

Looks great!!!

What I would do is completely remove the input frequencies and set it up with the Base entry, then the Mobile entries. That would be the most accurate way of displaying it and having it import into software. Basically, the way you did it for Troop A would be perfect, except getting rid of the inputs so it's less confusing. Otherwise it looks SO much better now, that was sorely needed.

I just realized how long it took you to sort that all out. Great effort on your part, Mike...well done!

Dave's page here gives a lot of good info on the breakdown of zones and Thruway PL's: http://www.nf2g.com/scannist/NY%20St...%20Safety.html

WatnNY · #10 (**permalink**) 09-20-2009, 02:17 PM

Thanks for the compliments! I hope it works out much better for those who download the database into software and then load it into their scanners! I had no idea the State Police page looked like that or I would have fixed it a lot sooner!

Mike

gralston73 · #11 (**permalink**) 09-20-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AEMTKieran

The database shows NYSP base frequencies as having PL Tones...they do not have PL tones!

Troop G does...I only listen to Zone 2 (Wilton)

ryanmiller36 · #12 (**permalink**) 09-22-2009, 08:56 PM

Ok, I live in Batavia, and today, I programmed 155.5050 and 155.5350. I have heard stuff, (a couple of thruway calls) but just to make sure, do i need to do anything else?
I have a Realistic/Radioshack PRO-2022 Thanks guys.

dd364 · #13 (**permalink**) 09-22-2009, 09:17 PM

Since I programmed the correct freq I got some calls, but they don't seem very active which makes me think there might be something more I'm missing.I left out all the tones so I sould be getting a lot more and I get nothing at all for troop T.

Chauffeur6 · #14 (**permalink**) 09-22-2009, 09:43 PM

Troop T (NYS Thruway) will be on either 453.425 or 453.525 depending on which frequency the nearest transmitter site is broadcasting on. The same transmissions are broadcast over both frequencies simultaneously (simulcast). The Thruway repeater system is typically pretty busy, seeing as how tow truck services and maintenance crews operate on that system in addition to Troop T units. If you're not hearing anything on either frequency, then you're probably not close enough to a transmitter to receive anything. They generally use high gain, directional antennas at each transmitter site to ensure better coverage along the Thruway. If you're behind or off to the side of these antennas, your reception can be greatly reduced.

sc8 · #15 (**permalink**) 09-22-2009, 11:25 PM

If Erie County is anything like Orange County, the reason for the lack of activity is that the majority of the calls SP handles are given out by the county 911 center over countywide frequencies. SP's own dispatch only gives out calls in towns where SP is the primary police agency, ie. small towns without their own PD's.

WatnNY · #16 (**permalink**) 09-24-2009, 05:39 AM

Troop G was fixed, per request, because the Bases also transmit the PL tones. Any other requests?

Mike

WatnNY · #17 (**permalink**) 09-27-2009, 10:15 PM

Friday and today I drove through Troop C zones 2 and 3. I found the mobiles in zone 2 were transmitting 146.2 and in zone 3 were transmitting 167.9. None of the bases were transmitting a tone though. Troop Headquarters in Sidney were transmitting 110.9 though -- weird!

Mike

dd364 · #18 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 05:00 PM

I still don't get any mobiles.Does the base in batavia cover all zones?I hear that fine but nothing on 155.535.I tried with both tones on and off. I also find it odd I get nothing for troop T or anything that should be on it's repeater.I only live less then a half mile from the thruway.

Chauffeur6 · #19 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 05:23 PM

It wouldn't be uncommon to not hear the mobiles unless they're close to you, or you have a good, outdoor antenna connected to the scanner.

The fact that you're so close to the Thruway and can't hear a thing is a bit odd. It is possible that even though you're close to the Thruway itself, you might not be that close to a transmitter site.

I'm not sure where you're listening from, but since it's a base scanner I assume you're indoors. Are you in a basement or ground floor? Do you have a lot of signal blocking things in the area like commercial buildings, tall building, or heavy foliage? You might want to try running an extension cord outdoors and sitting outside for a bit with the scanner, see if you get anything on either Thruway frequency. Also, if you're using the stock telescoping antenna, try varying the length of it. In general, it should pick up 450 MHz better if it's only extended halfway/2 sections.

dd364 · #20 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 08:03 PM

Good advise.I'll try all that.I live on ground floor about 10 miles south of buffalo,no outside antenna.I can pick up as far as lancaster PD.Tonawanda and Amhrest I get with some static but it's listenable.These areas are about 10 to 15 m from me so I should get troop T.
Zone 2 station in elmira is about 10 miles.Thats why I was wondering if batavia coverd all zones since I get them clear but not the mobiles.If the mobiles reach the base in batavia,it seems they should reach me as the elmira area is halfway and they are active in that area(I see them).