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Old 10-16-2009, 09:54 PM
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I am looking for some New York frequencies that are under a Goosetown system. Is it possible to find these frequencies ? If it is possible, how would i go about locating them ? THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP !!
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Motorola Two Way Radio Dealer Congers New York Goosetown Communications

KNQ718
471.9125/474.9125 MHz

WPKG652
461.6/466.6 MHz

WPKG849
461.325/466.325 MHz

WPKG850
462.15/467.15 MHz

WPKG852
462.175/467.175 MHz

WPKW291
464.7/469.7 MHz

WPLD467
461.0875/466.0875 MHz
462.8125/467.8125 MHz
463.0125/468.0125 MHz
463.7875/468.7875 MHz
464.5125/469.5125 MHz

WPLY938
452.225/457.225 MHz

WPME470
462.2/467.2
462.225/467.225 MHz

These Callsigns & frequencies were confirmed by the www.fcc.gov & www.cityfreq.com databases.

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The search function is your friend. There have already been a few threads in this section about the Goosetown LTR Passport system. If you're trying to listen to the county and Clarkstown DPWs, which I assume you are based on your asking about the Thruway plows last night, it's not going to happen. No scanner can trunk-track an LTR Passport system, so the best you can do is input all the frequencies as conventional NFM channels and hope to follow the conversations. Except that the transmitters usually send out short bursts every second or two, which will lock the scanner up on one frequency more often than not.

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Like mentioned preeviosly, most talkgroups are Passport vs. LTR and some sites are now Passport only, so the only may to monitor the system is by adding the frequencies from the site you want to hear conventionally and setting the delay to zero. This was taken off the NF2G website:

Goosetown Communications (Repeater Network LLC) Trunked Radio Sites in New York
06/28/09
Inferred, interpolated, and extrapolated material appears in MAGENTA.
Doubtful material appears in RED.
Operator Goosetown Communications Site 1-54 (1036 hex)
Location Austerlitz (Columbia Co.) Type LTR PassPort
LTR Area LTR LCN PassPort DCC PassPort LCN Frequency Callsign
461.9875 WPNU-273
463.3625 WPNU-273
1 1123 464.0375 WPNU-273
464.0625 WPNQ-593
0 09 464.3625 WPNQ-593
1 1169 464.6125 WPNQ-593
User Comment Group
unknown 0 09 011
unknown 0 09 014
New York City DEP Police Water supply security 57-40400
Northern Dutchess Ambulette Medical transport (inactive) 57-50040
School bus Home site: Wells - Pinnacle 41-60000
unknown 54-51000
unknown 65-50011
NOTE: The LTR and PassPort systems on this site are separate.
464.6125 is the home channel
464.0375 is the registering channel
461.9875, 463.3625, and 464.0625 are inactive.
Neighbors: 461.6125


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Operator Goosetown Communications SysID 1-58 (103A hex)
Location Ellenville (Ulster Co.) Type LTR PassPort
LTR Area LTR LCN PassPort DCC PassPort LCN Frequency Callsign
1 09 1 119 451.4875 WQDU-245
451.8625 WPNU-401
1 03 1 155 451.9375 WPNU-401
452.0125 WPNU-401
1 167 452.0875 WQDU-245
452.1375 WQDU-245
1 07 452.3625 WPNU-401
1 215 452.6875 WQDU-245
User Comment Group
unknown ambulance 1 07 040
unknown ambulette 1 07 041
unknown data, no voice 1 07 151
unknown plumbing & heating 1 07 034
unknown sanitation 1 09 010
unknown taxi 1 07 030
unknown towing 1 07 021
unknown towing 1 07 037
unknown 1 07 025
unknown 1 07 034
unknown 1 07 060
unknown 1 07 061
Mobile Life 56-50020
Mobile Life (Orange) 56-50021
Mobile Life (Dutchess) 56-50023
Mobile Life (Ulster) 56-50025
Radio Repair 51-59999
New York City DEP Police Water supply security 57-40400
Northern Dutchess Ambulette Medical transport (inactive) 57-50040
Regional EMS 51-40501
Regional EMS 56-50050
unknown 55-50000
unknown school bus 55-50001
unknown 57-40451
unknown 57-40452
unknown 57-40453
unknown 57-50020
unknown dump trucks 65-32200
unknown 65-32800
unknown school bus 65-33200
unknown school bus 59-50011
NOTE: This is a dual-mode system, LTR and PassPort.
452.6875 is the home channel
452.0875 is the registering channel
451.8625, 452.0125, and 452.1375 are inactive.
Neighbors: 452.1125 452.1875 452.3375 461.9625 471.5375


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Operator Goosetown Communications SysID 1-56 (1038 hex)
Location Beacon (Dutchess Co.) Type LTR PassPort
LTR Area LTR LCN PassPort DCC PassPort LCN Frequency Callsign
451.8625 WPMP-939
0 01 451.9125 WPMP-939
0 03 452.2375 WPMP-939
0 05 452.3375 WPMP-939
0 07 452.5875 WPMP-939
471.8500 WQFM-363
1 198 472.4750 WQFM-363
1 226 476.8750 WQFM-363
1 582 477.2750 WQFM-363
1 664 478.3000 WQFM-363
User Comment Group
unknown data, no voice 0 01 005
unknown bus 0 01 040
unknown oil co. service 0 01 021
unknown oil co. delivery 0 01 022
unknown oil & propane 0 01 043
unknown sanitation - Pine Bush 0 01 048
unknown taxi 0 01 050
unknown 0 01 061
unknown 0 01 071
unknown 0 01 102
unknown 0 01 105
unknown 0 01 201
Mobile Life (Orange) 56-50021
Mobile Life (Dutchess) 56-50023
Mobile Life (Ulster) 56-50025
New York City DEP Police Water supply security 57-40400
Northern Dutchess Ambulette Medical transport (inactive) 57-50040
Radio Repair 51-60000
Regional EMS 51-40501
Regional EMS 56-50050
unknown school bus 64-32300
unknown dump trucks 65-32200
unknown 65-32800
unknown school bus 65-33200
NOTE: The LTR and PassPort systems on this site are separate.
477.2750 is the home channel
476.8750 is the registering channel
451.8625 and 471.8500 are inactive.
Neighbors: 452.0875 452.1125 471.5375 476.8500 478.3500


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Operator Goosetown Communications SysID 1-57 (1039 hex)
Location Esopus (Ulster Co.) Type LTR PassPort
LTR Area LTR LCN PassPort DCC PassPort LCN Frequency Callsign
1 121 451.5125 WPNY-257
1 169 452.1125 WPNY-257
452.1625 WPNY-257
1 197 452.4625 WPMP-781
0 11 461.4125 WPNY-257
1 1001 462.5125 WPMP-781
User Comment Group
unknown inactive 0 11 016
unknown 0 11 060
unknown 0 11 061
Radio Repair 51-60000
Mobile Life (Orange) 56-50021
Mobile Life (Ulster) 56-50025
Mobile Life 56-50020
Mobile Life (Dutchess) 56-50023
Mobile Life 56-50026
New York City DEP Police Water supply security 57-40400
New York City DEP Police 57-40403
Northern Dutchess Ambulette Medical transport (inactive) 57-50040
Regional EMS 56-50050
Regional EMS (Ulster) 56-50052
unknown 51-33600
unknown 57-40451
unknown 57-40452
unknown 57-40453
unknown school bus 55-50001
unknown dump trucks 65-32200
unknown school bus 65-33200
NOTE: The LTR and PassPort systems on this site are separate.
451.5125 is the home channel
452.1125 is the registering channel
452.1625 is inactive.
The Illinois and Esopus towers are both licensed to the same frequencies under the same callsigns.
These two towers might be simulcast.
Neighbors: 452.0875 464.0375 464.6875 476.8500 476.8750


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Operator Goosetown Communications SysID 1-65 (1041 hex)
Location Schunnemunk (Orange Co.) Type LTR PassPort
LTR Area LTR LCN PassPort DCC PassPort LCN Frequency Callsign
1 123 471.5375 WQBT-789
1 19 471.7375 WPJY-934
1 165 472.0625 WPJY-934
1 09 1 213 472.6625 WPMV-558
1 05 1 231 472.8875 WPJY-934
477.6875 WPJY-934
User Comment Group
unknown 1-19-004
unknown oil service 1-19-007
unknown 1-19-018
unknown 1-19-021
unknown 1-19-022
unknown 1-19-027
unknown 1-19-029
unknown 1-19-063
unknown 1-19-101
unknown 1-19-102
unknown 1-19-105
unknown 1-19-150
unknown data, no voice 1-19-156
Mobile Life (Orange) 56-50021
Mobile Life (Ulster) 56-50025
Radio Repair 51-59999
New York City DEP Police Water supply security 57-40400
Regional EMS 51-40501
Regional EMS 56-50050
unknown school bus 59-50011
unknown school bus 64-32300
unknown dump trucks 65-32200
unknown 65-32800
unknown school bus 65-33200
NOTE: This is a dual-mode system, LTR and PassPort.
477.6875 broadcasts a constant data stream.
472.0625 is the home channel
471.5375 is the registering channel
Neighbors: 452.0875 452.3375 476.8750 477.9000 478.3500
Note: 452.3375 was a Beacon PassPort frequency but is now LTR only.
452.3375 remains in the broadcasted neighbors list due to an oversight by system administrators.


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Operator Goosetown Communications Site 1-59 (103B hex)
Location Warwick (Orange Co.) Type LTR PassPort
LTR Area LTR LCN PassPort DCC PassPort LCN Frequency Callsign
1 161 472.0125 WQGX-845
477.7625 WQKE-891
1 632 477.9000 WQEP-448
1 670 478.3750 WQKE-891
1 702 478.7750 WQEP-448
User Comment Group
Mobile Life 56-50020
Mobile Life (Orange) 56-50021
Radio Repair 51-59999
Radio Repair 51-60000
New York City DEP Police Water supply security 57-40400
Regional EMS 56-50050
Regional EMS 51-40501
unknown 51-33600
unknown 57-40450
unknown 57-40452
unknown school bus 59-50011
unknown dump trucks 65-32200
unknown 65-32800
unknown school bus 65-33200
NOTE: 478.7750 is the home channel
477.9000 is the registering channel
477.7625 is unused
Neighbors: 452.0875 471.5375 478.3500 478.9750


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Operator Goosetown Communications Site 1-63 (103F hex)
Location Stamford Type LTR PassPort
LTR Area LTR LCN PassPort DCC PassPort LCN Frequency Callsign
453.0125 WQGG-466
1 929 461.6125 WQGG-466
1 945 461.8125 WQGG-466
1 1057 463.2125 WQGG-466
464.8125 WQGG-466
User Comment Group
New York City DEP Police Water supply security 57-40400
unknown 57-40452
NOTE: 463.2125 is the home channel
461.6125 is the registering channel
453.0125 and 464.8125 are unused
Neighbors: 464.0375 464.6875


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Operator Goosetown Communications Site 1-96 (1060 hex)
Location Shandaken Type LTR PassPort
LTR Area LTR LCN PassPort DCC PassPort LCN Frequency Callsign
1 1145 464.3125 WQJM-476
464.6375 WQJM-476
1 1175 464.6875 WQJM-476
1 1194 464.9250 WQJM-476
User Comment Group
New York City DEP Police Water supply security 57-40400
unknown 57-40452
NOTE: 464.3125 is the home channel
464.6875 is the registering channel
464.6375 is unused
Neighbors: 452.1125 461.4625 461.6125


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Operator Goosetown Communications SysID
Location Liberty Type EFJ/Transcrypt LTR
Area Channel Frequency Callsign
0 01 451.8375 WPPC-292
0 07 461.5125 WPPC-292
0 09 461.9125 WPPC-292
User Comment Group
unknown 0 07 014



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You should have just posted a link to the document. Then people could actually read the information in clear, tabular format as I wrote it.

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This may be a dumb question. I understand that a "Passport" system can't be scanned by any scanner on the market now. I would need some computer software to follow the conservation. But Dave's site says that some sites are a dual LTR and Passport system with different rows of channel numbers. One row says LTR LCN with channel numbers, and another says Passport LCN with a different set of channel numbers. An example would be the Ellenville Tower. The second table down from the top. My question, if I plug in just the LTR LCN channels and frequencies into a LTR scanner, would my scanner be able to follow the conservation? I work for Regional EMS and we use the system. Would be nice to hear my co-workers on my days off. Also don't understand what the "neighbor" frequencies are. Thanks.
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You should have just posted a link to the document. Then people could actually read the information in clear, tabular format as I wrote it.

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Dave...for some reason I couln't get it to link back to that page on your site...only back to the homepage. That is why I did a copy/paste. But, thanks for the direct link.
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if I plug in just the LTR LCN channels and frequencies into a LTR scanner, would my scanner be able to follow the conservation? I work for Regional EMS and we use the system. Would be nice to hear my co-workers on my days off. Also don't understand what the "neighbor" frequencies are. Thanks.
You could follow any plain LTR conversations. If Regional EMS is using PassPort, then you won't hear anything in LTR mode.
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Dave...for some reason I couln't get it to link back to that page on your site...
Hmm. Another server oddity, I guess. I don't have any linking restrictions set anywhere that I know about.
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I work for Regional EMS and we use the system. Would be nice to hear my co-workers on my days off.
Regional and Mobile Life are on the Passport system, not the LTR system. In fact, there are practically no active users on the LTR system, the Passport is used almost exclusively. As was previously stated, you cannot track the Passport with a scanner, so you'd have to listen to the frequencies in conventional mode. If you're intent on doing so, program them all with no delay, but you'll probably get sick of hearing the bursts that are transmitted every second or two on each frequency in short order and will abandon the idea of trying to listen to the system that way.


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Hmm. Another server oddity, I guess. I don't have any linking restrictions set anywhere that I know about.
It's not the server, it's the fact that you use frames in FrontPage for the site design. The URL in the browser address bar never changes when using frames, which is why it's a pain to link to specific pages. You'd have to right click on the page link, then copy/paste it to get the direct link. You could also use the "Show this frame only" right-click menu in Firefox to break the frames and get the direct links in the browser address bar. Either way, frames are old and a pain in the butt. The javascript used to load each county doesn't help matters either, as it hides the URL from the links.

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Regional and Mobile Life are on the Passport system, not the LTR system. In fact, there are practically no active users on the LTR system, the Passport is used almost exclusively. As was previously stated, you cannot track the Passport with a scanner, so you'd have to listen to the frequencies in conventional mode. If you're intent on doing so, program them all with no delay, but you'll probably get sick of hearing the bursts that are transmitted every second or two on each frequency in short order and will abandon the idea of trying to listen to the system that way..
That is what I thought. Wishful thinking on my part. We use Motorola CDM1550 mobile radios as well as HT1250 LS+ portable radios. As they power up, they say "Passport", then "Searching", as they find the closest tower. Just hoping to monitor on the LTR side. Thanks for the reply.
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Either way, frames are old and a pain in the butt. The javascript used to load each county doesn't help matters either, as it hides the URL from the links.
Well, if the website generated more than the typical $10 per year, on average, in revenue, I might hire someone to program it up with MySQL and Perl and stuff. Since that is not feasible, I do what works. (By more, I mean several times what people have donated so far. But "free" means free, so I'm not complaining.)
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Well, if the website generated more than the typical $10 per year, on average, in revenue, I might hire someone to program it up with MySQL and Perl and stuff. Since that is not feasible, I do what works. (By more, I mean several times what people have donated so far. But "free" means free, so I'm not complaining.)
Dave, although my post may've sounded otherwise, I was not giving you flak over the design of your site. I fully understand you have done the best you can with the available tools and time, believe me. In fact, I actually like that your site is so clean and simple, it makes it very easy to navigate. Actually the only one suggestion I would have would be to move the Trunking section up to a top level. In fact, it might make more sense to move Statewide up as well. Why not have them both as top level links on the navbar for easier access? I've been to your site hundreds of times, and even I sometimes forget I have to drill down a few layers to get to some of that stuff.

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Good suggestion. I'll give it some thought. Thanks.
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