Picking up police freq 154.725

[Jammin_Jay]

Hi, I am a scanner listener in Ontario, Canada. I am picking up great VHF band conditions past few weeks this summer. One frequency that comes in real good is 154.725. I am trying to determine where it is. I have heard a few towns mentioned but can't seem to signify where it is. Some where in the Albany or glen falls , East NY state Area. Anybody help me with this one.

Thanks

[nashua_trunker]

Here's what the FCC database shows for licenses in New York
on 154.725 MHz. Warren County is north of Albany.

CLYDE, VILLAGE OF KDY381 Active NY CLYDE WAYNE PW Base 100
CLYDE, VILLAGE OF KDY381 Active NY CLYDE WAYNE PW Mobile
CLYDE, VILLAGE OF KDY381 / 0002245411 Pending NY CLYDE WAYNE PW Base 100
CLYDE, VILLAGE OF KDY381 / 0002245411 Pending NY CLYDE WAYNE PW Mobile 100
ROCKLAND, COUNTY OF KEA323 Active NY ROCKLAND PW Mobile 50
ROCKLAND, COUNTY OF KEA323 Active NY HAVERSTRAW ROCKLAND PW Mobile Relay 100
ROCKLAND, COUNTY OF KEA323 Active NY POMONA ROCKLAND PW Mobile Relay 100
NEWARK, VILLAGE OF KEA510 Active NY WAYNE PW Mobile 280
NEWARK, VILLAGE OF KEA510 Active NY NEWARK WAYNE PW Base 280
WAVERLY, VILLAGE OF KEC875 Active NY WAVERLY TIOGA PW Mobile 45
WAVERLY, VILLAGE OF KEC875 Active NY WAVERLY TIOGA PW Mobile Relay 25
Tioga County of KEC984 Active NY BARTON TIOGA PW Base 35
PALMYRA, VILLAGE OF KEF527 Active NY PALMYRA WAYNE PW Base
MACEDON, VILLAGE OF KNBD922 Active NY MACEDON WAYNE PW Base 23
MACEDON, VILLAGE OF KNBD922 Active NY MACEDON WAYNE PW Mobile
WARREN, COUNTY OF KNED338 Active NY HAGUE WARREN PW Mobile Relay 100
WARREN, COUNTY OF KNED338 Active NY LAKE GEORGE WARREN PW Mobile Relay 100
WARREN, COUNTY OF KNED338 Active NY NORTH CREEK WARREN PW Mobile Relay 5
WARREN, COUNTY OF KNED338 Active NY NORTH CREEK WARREN PW Mobile Relay 100
WAYNE, COUNTY OF KYF435 Active NY WAYNE PW Mobile 80
WAYNE, COUNTY OF KYF435 Active NY FAIRVILLE WAYNE PW Mobile Relay 50
WAYNE, COUNTY OF KYF435 Active NY LYONS WAYNE PW Mobile Relay 220
WAYNE, COUNTY OF KYF435 Active NY ONTARIO WAYNE PW Base 40
WAYNE, COUNTY OF KYF435 Active NY ONTARIO WAYNE PW Mobile 50
WAYNE, COUNTY OF KYF435 / 0002167626 Pending NY WAYNE PW Mobile 80
WAYNE, COUNTY OF KYF435 / 0002167626 Pending NY FAIRVILLE WAYNE PW Mobile Relay 50
WAYNE, COUNTY OF KYF435 / 0002167626 Pending NY LYONS WAYNE PW Mobile Relay 220
WAYNE, COUNTY OF KYF435 / 0002167626 Pending NY ONTARIO WAYNE PW Base 40
WAYNE, COUNTY OF KYF435 / 0002167626 Pending NY ONTARIO WAYNE PW Mobile 50
NEW HARTFORD, TOWN OF WNED704 Active NY NEW HARTFORD ONEIDA PW Base 80
NEW HARTFORD, TOWN OF WNED704 Active NY NEW HARTFORD ONEIDA PW Base 100
NEW HARTFORD, TOWN OF WNED704 Active NY NEW HARTFORD ONEIDA PW Mobile 50
CATTARAUGUS, COUNTY OF WNFE731 Active NY CATTARAUGUS PW Mobile
CATTARAUGUS, COUNTY OF WNFE731 Active NY COLD SPRING CATTARAUGUS PW Mobile Relay 480
CATTARAUGUS, COUNTY OF WNFE731 Active NY NAPOLE CATTARAUGUS PW Mobil Relay - Stand-by 400
LYONS, VILLAGE OF WNHU597 Active NY WAYNE PW Mobile
LYONS, VILLAGE OF WNHU597 Active NY LYONS WAYNE PW Base 18
RENSSELAER, COUNTY OF WPEJ882 Active NY TROY RENSSELAER PW Mobile
RENSSELAER, COUNTY OF WPEJ882 Active NY TROY RENSSELAER PW Mobile Relay 75
KINGSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY WPRR733 Active NY KINGSTON ULSTER PW Mobile
KINGSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY WPRR733 Active NY KINGSTON ULSTER PW Mobile Relay 50
NEW YORK, STATE OF WPSZ513 Active NY NEW PALTZ ULSTER PW Base 50
NEW YORK, STATE OF WPSZ513 Active NY NEW PALTZ ULSTER PW Mobile 15

[gralston73]

On 154.725, if you are receiving a PL of 127.3, or are hearing it referred to as "Headquarters", it is the Warren County Sheriff's Office.

[Jammin_Jay]

Thanks, that's what it is Warren County Sherrif's office. Do they have an antenna on a high tower?

[gralston73]

They have a transmitter on top of Prospect Mt. in Lake George and another on top of Gore Mt. in North Creek

[brad612]

Originally Posted by Jammin_Jay

Hi, I am a scanner listener in Ontario, Canada. I am picking up great VHF band conditions past few weeks this summer. One frequency that comes in real good is 154.725. I am trying to determine where it is. I have heard a few towns mentioned but can't seem to signify where it is. Some where in the Albany or glen falls , East NY state Area. Anybody help me with this one.

Thanks

This is in New York. It is for Rensselear county sheriff.

[DaveNF2G]

It is unlikely that someone in Canada is picking up 154.725 from Rensselaer County. It is a low-powered repeater for the jail.

More likely is Wayne County, NY. It is a shared repeater among several local police departments.

Having the CTCSS tone would help to nail it down.

[Saint]

Originally Posted by DaveNF2G

It is unlikely that someone in Canada is picking up 154.725 from Rensselaer County. It is a low-powered repeater for the jail.

More likely is Wayne County, NY. It is a shared repeater among several local police departments.

Having the CTCSS tone would help to nail it down.

I pick up 154.725 from Fort Erie and the CTCSS Tone I have is (118.8).
Steve

[DaveNF2G]

I forgot about Warren County. Oops.

[Jammin_Jay]

Its me again. I have determined it is Warren County. I have listen to the tranmissions regarding roads and certain areas like glens falls. I have picked up Wayne County in NY, 154.845, as well as Jefferson County 154.755. But yes 154.725 is in the Adirondacks (Warren County). I pick this up periodically, i am in Eastern part of Ontario in Canada, so i am close to NY border.

[Thunderknight]

Originally Posted by Jammin_Jay

Its me again. I have determined it is Warren County. I have listen to the tranmissions regarding roads and certain areas like glens falls. I have picked up Wayne County in NY, 154.845, as well as Jefferson County 154.755. But yes 154.725 is in the Adirondacks (Warren County). I pick this up periodically, i am in Eastern part of Ontario in Canada, so i am close to NY border.

Warren County's channels can really get out sometimes. I have heard reports of the fire alert channel (154.175) being heard in Quebec.

[n1das]

Originally Posted by Thunderknight

Warren County's channels can really get out sometimes. I have heard reports of the fire alert channel (154.175) being heard in Quebec.

Warren County brings back memories for me too. I was listening to Warren County back in the late 70's in Hanover NH on a Bearcat 210 scanner and using the built-in whip antenna. I lived halfway up a hill lining the CT river valley and faced to the West. I had to find a hot spot in my bedroom to hear them good on 154.725. An outside antenna on the roof made a world of difference. This was back when I was in high school. I could also hear the fire alert channel on 154.175 although poorly. I could also hear them on their VHF-Lo band channel on 33.90 along with Lakes Region Mutual Aid fire in NH plus a few other departments. I recall hearing a radio tech ("Radio Repair") on the system once and he advised he was atop Mt. Prospect and about work on the system.

When I listened to them in the late 70's on 154.725, they were always very professonal sounding and I noted a few things about the radio system. Audio quality through the repeater was EXCELLENT at all times. I could also hear headquarters directly at home in Hanover NH on the input on 158.79. I noticed the repeater operated on carrier squelch and a 1750Hz or similar tone burst was required bring up the repeater. Every unit including headquarters had a tone burst on their signal at the beginning of a transmission. The repeater sounded like it had a notch filter in the audio path to filter out most of the tone burst. The carrier squelch was set a little tight but it worked OK. There were a few times where the repeater was on the air after being keyed up by a unit and another distant department's traffic was weak into the repeater but strong enough to hold the squelch open and keep the repeater on the air for the duration of the co-channel traffic. Once the repeater finally went off the air, the distant stations wouldn't bring it on again because of the tone burst required.

Dispatch was called by their FCC callsign directly and not by "Dispatch", "Base", "Headquarters", or any other name. It was KEC855 back in the 70s. It was always something like "KEC855 to <unit number>..." or "<unit number> to KEC855...". Later on, it became "KNED338" because of the FCC callsign change.

I later heard Warren County in Durham NH when I was attending UNH. I lived in one of the high rise dorms on campus and could hear them but poorly. The furthest I've heard them was in York ME when I was hilltopping as a ham and doing general tuning around and listening on Mt. Agamenticus, about 30 miles away from UNH. Mt "Aggy" as it's often called is a hill close to the seacoast and is 600ft. above sea level. Although it's not that high of a hill, it has some good height above average terrain (HAAT) because there's not much else around it in the NH-ME seacoast area.

Warren County's channels really DO get out! It's been at least 20 years since I last listened to them as VHF DX traffic....back in the old days of CSQ and tone burst for Warren County.

[LathamScan]

Warren County utilizes a four site simulcast system at these sites:

1. Municipal Center, Queensbury
2. Prospect Mountain, Lake George
3. Gore Mountain, North Creek
4. Hague (behind the fire station, I believe)

Since the new system went on the air, the following frequencies and channel assignments have been added to the simulcast:

154.725 (127.3) - Sheriff's Dispatch
159.090 (127.3) - Sheriff's Headquarters (Data & Info; simplex)
154.175 (127.3) - Emergency Services Alerting
155.295 (110.9) - EMS Control
151.025 (110.9) - Emergency Services ESR-1 Operations Channel

33.90 (110.9) is not simulcast, but is at all four sites for select transmit. However, with the coverage of Prospect Mountain and Gore Mountain, I don't believe the other two sites get selected much.

Kevin

[gralston73]

Originally Posted by LathamScan

154.725 (127.3) - Sheriff's Dispatch
159.090 (127.3) - Sheriff's Headquarters (Data & Info; simplex)
Kevin

Actually,

154.725 (127.3) is "Headquarters"
159.090 (127.3) is "Dispatch"

[jt1000]

Cattaraugus County Sheriff mobiles masked 154.7250 118.8 .I live in buffalo,ny and I listen to them.