recently ive been hearing new radio codes used by oneida countty fire and ems dispatch, wondering if anyone knows what they mean, like ill hear 5 charlie 7 on fire channel
Oneida County fire and EMS
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Sounds like they are using Medical Priorities EMD. Callers are questioned and the EMD Program comes up with a determinate. 5 Charlie 7 actually does not fit. 5 is back pain, Charlie means BLS "Hot" ALS "Cold" and 1-3 help complete the descritption.
Alpha- BLS Only -"Cold" (Non Emergency)
Bravo BLS Only "Hot" (Emergency)
Charlie BLS "Hot", ALS "Cold"
Delta BLS "Hot", ALS "Hot"
ECHO -Crdiac/Respirtory Arrest, All units HOT, Closest unit with an AED (In the "perfect" world, all municiple vehicles (Police, Fire, DPW, Animal Control, Local Government) woul dhave an AED and would respond.)
Alpha- BLS Only -"Cold" (Non Emergency)
Bravo BLS Only "Hot" (Emergency)
Charlie BLS "Hot", ALS "Cold"
Delta BLS "Hot", ALS "Hot"
ECHO -Crdiac/Respirtory Arrest, All units HOT, Closest unit with an AED (In the "perfect" world, all municiple vehicles (Police, Fire, DPW, Animal Control, Local Government) woul dhave an AED and would respond.)
Yes, we are doing EMD in Onedia County now. We started testing it at the first of the yr and now are 100% live. Also if you have noticed all ambulance "paid and volunteer" get toned out over fire control now. So say before you wouldn't hear Kunkel or Edwards get dispatched and now you will. All part of the new system.
c0untyb0y
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In all reality, you've been doing EMD ever since March 2008 when Midstate EMS introduced us to "Priority 1" and "Priority 2" dispatch codes. As EJS1810 alluded to in the posting, ALS = Priority 1, BLS = Priority 2. The next phase of EMS in the county is what you're hearing on the air today. Don't have a "26 Alpha 4" night over this.
is there like a code list that all ems have so they can tell what numbers mean what? and if some one does they can post it on here.
PS thanks ejs1810 for the letters and their meaning
PS thanks ejs1810 for the letters and their meaning
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DaveNF2G
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The EMD setup is either a large flip pad or a box of cards. There are potentially hundreds of valid combinations.
26-A-4 is not a valid EMD determinante. lol
They also have a computer version that can be linked direct to CAD - no more grabbing the flip cards.
Dave, you already know what I am about to say, but for the others: The large number of codes allows 911 systems with CAD systems to directly input the event type from the EMD program into CAD. Each unique event type can then be tailored to various responses and priorities within the 911 system's dispatch plans for each agency.
Speaking from the dispatcher's end, once you learn and understand it, it is just plain slicker than greased teflon.
For the responding agencies, CAD converts the EMD code to standard language which is included with the CAD data when it is sent to MDT's, station printers, or digital pagers.
i heard from someone that hey tried this a few years ago, but it didnt work because it was too confusing. seems stupid to me
It is becoming the national standard for dispatching of EMS and first responder medical units.
The medical responders are highly trained. They know the code system, what it is, how it works, and how valuable it is in the Chain of Survival. The Dispatchers and Call Takers know even better.
The system is confusing ONLY if you don't understand it.
SMFD34
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EMD doesn't have to be confusing. The only actual important thing in the "code" is the letter. The letter is what is supposed to recommend the response priority, if the agency chooses to follow it. The other numbers point toward what the problem may be based on standardized questions. Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta, Echo, and Omega are all thats necessary to remember for responders to function, the rest can be looked up if desired in the guide.
Amen!!!
When we shifted to full EMD determinate codes for CAD over ten years ago, we elected to voice out the cause in plain language along with the Alpha - Omega priority. The full code still goes to the responders and agencies via CAD to station PC's, MDT's, and digital pagers.
Voicing out the full determinate code has its pluses and minuses. Some of that will depend on how much other info is voiced out.
Warren County has been using EMD for years...but when it comes to the dispatch, they keep it simple. P2 BLS, P1 BLS, P1 ALS...and plain language for the nature of the call
Prospect62
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Oneida County has been doing EMD with 911 callers since I worked there in 2003. They just recently added the component of radio dispatching EMS/FIRE units using the determinant codes (ex. 13 Delta 2) in addition to the plain English "nature of the call". For the time being, I assume OC will continue giving determinant codes along with the plain English nature until responders become more familiar with the determinant codes.
Here is some reference material from NAEMD (the agency that coordinates training and certifies dispatchers to do EMD) that kind of highlights what the determinant codes means. It's not all inclusive.
http://www.prioritydispatch.net/support/pdf/UKE_v11.3_Std_to_Omega_Equivalence_Worksheet.pdf
Here is some reference material from NAEMD (the agency that coordinates training and certifies dispatchers to do EMD) that kind of highlights what the determinant codes means. It's not all inclusive.
http://www.prioritydispatch.net/support/pdf/UKE_v11.3_Std_to_Omega_Equivalence_Worksheet.pdf
c0untyb0y
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but... in typical "home rule" fashion Oneida County has consciously decided to NOT use the NATO alphabet with EMD as designed and used by virtually every other PSAP in the nation and went with the APCO alphabet instead. reasoning behind this was it would be too difficult for dispatchers to have to learn a second alphabetic code. and not the whole alphabet mind you, just the five phonetic letters ALPHA, BRAVO, CHARLIE, DELTA, and ECHO.
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