NNJ and NYC Interops (Feed)

[SCPD]

Hi Folks,
I am in the process of testing a new audio feed here at RR titled NNJ and NY Interops
This feed covers the VHF NJ SPEN frequencies of (Statewide Police Emergency Network) and the (Urban Area Security Initiative interoperability Working Group or UASI which include U and I-TAC interoperability frequencies) In the North-East Region of New Jersey they cover the seven (7) counties of Bergen, Essex, Hudson, Middlesex, Morris, Passaic and Union counties and the Cities of Newark and Jersey City. In New York, New York City includes the five (5) Boroughs of Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens, Manhattan, Richmond (Staten Island).

These frequencies are normally quiet except for routine nets and radio checks. Activity will pick up when special events, sporting events, parades, funerals and other auxiliary operations are taking place.

However these frequencies do become quite active in the event of a large scale or wide area incident requiring multiple public safety agency responses (Police, Fire, EMS, OEM, FEMA, and USCCG etc).

At this time I am only covering the analog transmissions on these frequencies. Digital P25, Trunked Talk Groups and the VTAC frequencies in this category are NOT Covered! I relize the NJSP 800 MHz trunked system has various talk groups assigned to this function, However, at this time I am only looking for help of adding additional frequencies (analog) that are used for interops especialy between NYC and NNJ. Can you help? Either PM me directly or post in this forum.

Thanks

 

[SCPD]

FYI: Just an update on what I am actualy monitoring.

NJ SPEN

154.68000 PL 131.8 SPEN 1 (Primary Agency to Agency)
155.47500 CSQ SPEN 2 (Nationwide / Outside of NJ Agencies)
154.72500 PL 131.8 SPEN 3 (Alternate to Primary)
153.78500 PL 131.8 SPEN 4 (Statewide Mobile Public Safety Coordination )

U-TAC NJ UTAC

453.21250 156.7 PL UCALL North-East Region UASI
453.46250 156.7 PL UTAC 1 North-East Region UASI
453.71250 156.7 PL UTAC 2 North-East Region UASI
453.86250 156.7 PL UTAC 3 North-East Region UASI
470.23750 186.2 PL NJUTAC 4 North-East Region UASI
470.08750 173.8 PL NJUTAC 5 North-East Region UASI
472.87500 192.8 PL NJUTAC 6 North-East Region UASI
454.15000 136.5 PL NJUTAC 7 North
453.62500 141.3 PL NJUTAC 8 North

I-TAC NJ ITAC (Rebanded 800 MHz)

851.01250 156.7 PL ICALL-800 calling
851.51250 156.7 PL ITAC-1
852.01250 156.7 PL ITAC-2
852.51250 156.7 PL ITAC-3
853.01250 156.7 PL ITAC-4
851.77500 156.7 PL NJITAC-5

Thanks

 

[maalox]

is nj spen still active......

 

[tbendick]

If you doing NYC then also the new MAC stuff aka the old IO channels

 

[CqDx]

tbendick Do you know the MAC channels are programmed in the new FDNY engines and F350 radios?

 

[SCPD]

If you doing NYC then also the new MAC stuff aka the old IO channels

I am looking at the Common/Shared - Interoperabilitysection of the NY State Data Base. I see UTAC and ITAC frequencies that are common between NY & NJ. However,
I am not sure that the other frequencies are used between NNJ and NYC or are the strictly used NY state wide only. That's why I am asking for input from the NY side.

39.48000 156.7 PL LFIRE2
45.88000 156.7 PL LFIRE4
39.46000 156.7 PL LLAW1
45.86000 156.7 PL LLAW3
154.28000 156.7 PL VFIRE21
154.26500 156.7 PL VFIRE22 NFM
154.29500 156.7 PL VFIRE23
154.27250 156.7 PL VFIRE24 NFM
154.28750 156.7 PL VFIRE25 NFM
154.30250 156.7 PL VFIRE26 NFM
155.47500 156.7 PL VLAW31
155.48250 156.7 PL VLAW32 NFM

As to MAC frequencies are you referring to Regional Emergency Medical Alerting Center (REMAC) frequencies?

I am holding back on monitoring certain EMS Channels.
TOS for the feed states "I agree to NOT broadcast dedicated channels or talkgroups used for ambulance to hospital communications"

So I'll look into EMS interops later on and then add frequencies when I am sure they don't violate the TOS. (HIPPA Laws protecting patient identity is the primary reason for restrictions on monitoring ambulance to hospital communications.)

Thanks in advance!

 

[mike4164]

Ken,the MAC freequencies are not the REMAC frequencies. They are the old I/O channels in NYC that have been re-allocated by the FCC to be used for mutual aid between agencies in NYC that come from other jurisdictions to operate in NYC. For example, units that come from bergen county into NYC and rockland county and so on just like on 9/11,that's to make things easier. The problem on 9/11 was no communication between outside agencies and NYC agencies so these frequencies have been re-allocated for that use.

Mike
Retired FDNY/EMS
Haz-Tac SOD

 

[mike4164]

tbendick Do you know the MAC channels are programmed in the new FDNY engines and F350 radios?

The new Mutual Aid Communications frequencies are not in the engines or ambulances. They are only in the chiefs radios in suppression and ems. The OEM has them also as well as NYPD SOD units ie: ESU,Harbor,Aviation, K-9.

 

[SCPD]

Mike,

Where can I find a list of these "older" MAC frequencies:roll:?

Thanks

 

[ecps92]

FYI, for Rebanded 800, they would be known as

8CALL90, 8TAC91, 8TAC92, 8TAC93 and 8TAC94

ICALL and ITAC are the Alpha names/tag for the Old [Non Rebanded channels]

DHS | National Interoperability Field Operations Guide

FYI: Just an update on what I am actualy monitoring.


I-TAC NJ ITAC (Rebanded 800 MHz)

851.01250 156.7 PL ICALL-800 calling
851.51250 156.7 PL ITAC-1
852.01250 156.7 PL ITAC-2
852.51250 156.7 PL ITAC-3
853.01250 156.7 PL ITAC-4
851.77500 156.7 PL NJITAC-5

Thanks

 

[SCPD]

OK, Thanks I figured that. Here in Jersey they have already switched to the rebanded I-TAC frequencies. Also the older I-TAC and the rebanded conterparts are simulcast during incidents and special events. I don't want to duplicate and therefore are not monitoring the "Old" I-TAC freqs

Also a GREAT resource! Thanks for the link!!!!

 

[N2SCV]

Ken,

I'm trying to download these into ARC-300 and 160 but can't find them under NY, NJ or the Feds.

 

[n2nov]

INTER-OPERABILITY CHANNELS FOR LOCAL/STATE/FEDERAL AGENCIES
Future FDNY Frequencies (has the NYC MAC Channels made from the old NYPD I/O freqs)

 

[APX8000]

I know you said analog only...but the NY/NJ Federal Interop Repeater 167.7875 NAC $653 might be a good add if you later upgrade to a digital scanner for the feed. Alot of the UASI interops are mixed mode as well, NAC $293. Just a thught...

 

[SCPD]

I am in the process of doing a major upgrade to this feed by adding P25 Digital and Selected Interop Talk Groups from NJSP 800 Trunked System. Also added will be the V-TAC frequencies and Federal Interop frequencies. This Feed will also support Alpha TAGS! The scanner is 396T it does not support individual NAC codes but decodes non-encrypted P25

 

[SCPD]

INTER-OPERABILITY CHANNELS FOR LOCAL/STATE/FEDERAL AGENCIES
Future FDNY Frequencies (has the NYC MAC Channels made from the old NYPD I/O freqs)

Charlie,

I have most of these frequencies, what I'll add though is the VFIRE VHF now that I have a PL, My documentation did not list PL.

Thanks

 

[N2SCV]

Ken,

I'm trying to download these into ARC-300 and 160 but can't find them under NY, NJ or the Feds.

I should have written better. I can find it on RR but ARC-300 can't.

 

[SCPD]

Federal Interop Repeater 167.7875 NAC $653

I know you said analog only...but the NY/NJ Federal Interop Repeater 167.7875 NAC $653 might be a good add if you later upgrade to a digital scanner for the feed. Alot of the UASI interops are mixed mode as well, NAC $293. Just a thught...

Some help from NY listners, So far communications on this frequency have been P25 Encrypted. I have not monitored this frequency before. So if this encryption is occasional, I still keep in in scan. If however, Like NJ's ITAC 6 which is encrypted all the time, I'll remove it from the scan list...why bother! right?

Please do not turn this thread into a discussion about the merits of encryption OK

Thanks

 

[mike4164]

Some help from NY listners, So far communications on this frequency have been P25 Encrypted. I have not monitored this frequency before. So if this encryption is occasional, I still keep in in scan. If however, Like NJ's ITAC 6 which is encrypted all the time, I'll remove it from the scan list...why bother! right?

Please do not turn this thread into a discussion about the merits of encryption OK

Thanks

Ken,from my experience in listening to this channel it is encrypted only on ocassion. It was an FBI frequency at one time. I have heard alot of transmissions in the clear, especially up here in Orange County NY. The feds have the option of encryption on these frequencies and they do use it sometimes. Most of the time that it is encrypted is when the President is in town or something like that.

Mike
FDNY/EMS Retired
Haz-Tac SOD