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Old 11-07-2012, 8:09 AM
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Exclamation Trouble getting NY troop B

I live 35 miles from the main dispatch in Raybrook NY i can not pick up them when they dispatch and car to car or even car to dispatch can anyone help me out i have a pro 163 scanner and a hand held pro 164.
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Old 11-07-2012, 8:38 AM
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I live 35 miles from the main dispatch in Raybrook NY i can not pick up them when they dispatch and car to car or even car to dispatch can anyone help me out i have a pro 163 scanner and a hand held pro 164.
It would be helpful if you could tell us which frequencies you are trying to listen to.

Also, if you have PL decode enabled, you might want to shut it off until you sort this out.

Also, my map says that Rouses Point is about 75 miles from Raybrook rather than 35. That actual distance might have something to do with the fact that you are not hearing VHF transmissions from the Raybrook area.
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NYSP 110.9 Base PL

KA6004 M 110.9 PL NYSP Car-Car Car-to-Car FM Law Tac
155.46000 KA6004 BM NYSP ESD Executive Services Detail FM Law Tac
154.69500 KA6004 BM NYSP Statewd Statewide Emergency - Bulletins/Special Broadcasts FM Law Talk
154.92000 KA6004 M NYSP Tact Tactical FM Law Tac
155.56500 KA6004 BM 79.7 PL NYSP Tact Tactical FM Law Tac
155.56500 KA6004 BM 110.9 PL NYSP Tact Tactical FM Law Tac
155.62500 KA6004 BM 110.9 PL NYSP Tact Tactical FM Law Tac


154.90500 KED885 B Troop B Base Base to Mobile FM Law Dispatch
155.59500 KED884 M 127.3 PL B1 Mobile Zone 1 Mobile to Base FM Law Dispatch
155.59500 KUZ980 M 146.2 PL B2 Mobile Zone 2 Mobile to Base FM Law Dispatch
155.59500 KED883 M 167.9 PL B3 Mobile Zone 3 Mobile to Base FM Law Dispatch
155.59500 KED885 M 192.8 PL B Zone 3 Dispatch - Zone 3: Tupper Lake area FM Law Dispatch
155.56500 KA6004 BM 79.7 PL NYSP Massena NYSP Massena uses as Dispatch FM Law Dispatch


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I think i know what it is now i never put in that 110.pl
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You do not need a pl tone to receive . It would also depend on what transmitter they are using at the time if you will recieve them or not
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You do not need a pl tone to receive . It would also depend on what transmitter they are using at the time if you will recieve them or not
The OP may not have seen my edit which added the following paragraph:

Also, my map says that Rouses Point is about 75 miles from Raybrook rather than 35. That actual distance might have something to do with the fact that you are not hearing VHF transmissions from the Raybrook area.
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sorry about that all the time i go up that way it feels shorter maybe it because i go there so much.
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If that is his location then he is 75 miles away.

If he has the wrong tone in he wont hear anything also.

He should be hearing Plattsburg and Ray Brook how ever he wont hear Ray Brook all the time.
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I do get ray Brook just not getting car to car or car to base just heard ray brook .
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As long as you have the frequency you should be fine, you do not need the PL.

The distance to Ray Brook does not mean anything, the antennas on the tower there are "local" transmitters not for day to day operations or regular dispatching.

If you are not hearing the State Police then there may be a problem with your scanner. Are you having trouble hearing any other agencies?

On the other hand there may be nothing wrong with your scanner, as the Troopers operate on the individual County frequencies and a lot of communications between the individual Troop Car and the State Police Dispatcher is done via computer, which the State Police incorrectly call their MDC (mobile data computer) in the cars AVL. The AVL (automatic vehicle locator) is part of the MDC system.

It also depends on what tower they are using. There are no less than 8 different tower locations that are used by Troop B. You should not have any issue hearing the Belfry site in Mineville Essex County, and especially Rand Hill in Plattsburg. Other sites include Blue Mountain in Hamilton County, Mt Pisgah in Saranac Lake, Whiteface Mtn, and Gore Mtn in North Creek Warren County.

Troop B communications can routinely be heard in the northern area of Troop G.

So bottom line, there are multiple transmitter sites for the State Police which could be part of your RX issue, but there is a great deal of communications that goes on via computer. I would check and see how well you receiver some other agencies. What are you using for an antenna?

Please excuse the rambling response.

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I do get ray Brook just not getting car to car or car to base just heard ray brook .
You are not going to hear the cars unless they are close to where you are. Yes they are running 110 watt radios but with the make up of the Adirondacks the car needs to be within a couple of miles of you for you to hear them.
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I do get ray Brook just not getting car to car or car to base just heard ray brook .
Glen hit the nail on the head.

You are not going to hear Car-to-Car or Car-to-Base unless you are close to the mobiles, no more than a few miles at best given the terrain up there.
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OP : I'm curious about what type antenna setup you have . What type coax and the length to what type antenna.
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I ave a thirty foot tower with a 100 feet of coax RadioShack® Outdoor Scanner/Ham Discone Antenna had it installed by a friend who does Ham radio. I do hear RayBrook a lot now just not getting car to base or car to car.
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If you're using 100 feet of RG58 coax that's a lot of loss. You're better of using RG8, RG8x, RG214 or lmr 400


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Sounds like you need better coax and a better antenna. I use LMR400 and a 3dB VHF-HI omni antenna and can pick up NYSP car to car and car to base up to 50 miles away. I am also in a good location.
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If I remember correctly that ant. is a 0 (zero) db gain ant. That coupled with the 100 ft I believe you have a ton of line loss. Now given that you might look at replacing the coax with at least RG 8 or better still LMR. Just a thought.
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