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Old 01-17-2013, 6:43 AM
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Default P25 on GMRS 462.550 near Albany?

I've been hearing P25 activity, NAC 297, on the GMRS channel 462.550 in the Albany area. At first it sounded like a law enforcement talk, based on discussions of vehicles (e.g. The Audi was going fast, get that one)...but then I also heard comms such as drop off the visitor sign in forms at the business center. That sounds more like a facility. I'm thinking maybe a security operations, perhaps a college or school campus?

I heard one 900 series call sign, being requested to return to base.

The signal is weak and sometimes I get poor decode, so it's not close. I did hear one reference to a road by route number...I didn't write it down, but I didn't recongize it at all...so I'm thinking this could be Mass or VT.

I checked the FCC for a grandfathered license and nothing found. (Although I doubt they could legally run P25 anyway, as that would have required a license mod and I think grandfathering only allows renewals).

Anyone else hearing this? I don't *think* this is the "Albany County Assistance" group.

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Old 01-17-2013, 7:41 AM
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I couldn't find anything at all except for 2 expired licenses in NYC. Doubt it was that. Could it possibly be a bleed over? Are their any schools in your area that use digital? Just a thought?
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:27 AM
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P25 is not legal on GMRS

As for the FCC, other than Grandfathered licenses, you won't find them by Frequency anymore as a GMRS licenses gives you all Frequencies now.

What make/model Scanner ?

Could it be an image ??
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a.) VHF VA Hosp Maint 164.0625
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I've been hearing P25 activity, NAC 297, on the GMRS channel 462.550 in the Albany area. At first it sounded like a law enforcement talk, based on discussions of vehicles (e.g. The Audi was going fast, get that one)...but then I also heard comms such as drop off the visitor sign in forms at the business center. That sounds more like a facility. I'm thinking maybe a security operations, perhaps a college or school campus?

I heard one 900 series call sign, being requested to return to base.

The signal is weak and sometimes I get poor decode, so it's not close. I did hear one reference to a road by route number...I didn't write it down, but I didn't recongize it at all...so I'm thinking this could be Mass or VT.

I checked the FCC for a grandfathered license and nothing found. (Although I doubt they could legally run P25 anyway, as that would have required a license mod and I think grandfathering only allows renewals).

Anyone else hearing this? I don't *think* this is the "Albany County Assistance" group.
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I have heard this repeater too on 462.550. Thunderknight's observations are same as mine. Troy area for me, but have heard it in Schenectady, Latham, etc too. I would add that i hear activity sometimes in evenings, and always before wx storm (before Sandy, snowstorms, etc). I am using old school Pro-2005 with discone on roof in Troy, so nothing high tech here.
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I shutter to think someone would have another illegal radio set up in the albany area....cant be
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I have heard this repeater too on 462.550. Thunderknight's observations are same as mine. Troy area for me, but have heard it in Schenectady, Latham, etc too. I would add that i hear activity sometimes in evenings, and always before wx storm (before Sandy, snowstorms, etc). I am using old school Pro-2005 with discone on roof in Troy, so nothing high tech here.
This couldn't be the same one, if you are using a Pro-2005 since that is analog only. What I am hearing is P25 digital.
What you are hearing is probably the Albany County Assistance (I think that is what they call themselves). They are analog. I think those are the ones who broadcast weather alerts, refer to dispatcher numbers, etc.

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a.) VHF VA Hosp Maint 164.0625
b.) UHF/380 Watervliet Arsenal 380.7500 and 385.5250
I'll check those with a second scanner and see what happens. I doubt it's maint based on the comms, but Arsenal security is a possibility.
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Thanks Thunderknight. Yes that sounds like what I'm hearing.
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Even though the pro 2005 is analog only you can still tell whether if the transmission coming across are digital or not. P25 makes a distinctive sound when monitoring in analog mode. He might not being hearing what it said but you can easily tell if its a digital signal.
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The Arsenal has been known to splatter a lot of frequencies with recoverable P25 audio since the 380 meg system was installed.

I have permission (as Unit 914) to use the Albany County Assistance repeater and it is not P25 capable.
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I have permission (as Unit 914) to use the Albany County Assistance repeater and it is not P25 capable.
What is that frequency?
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As in the op, 462.550.
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