Ore Sheriff: I wont enforce any new gun laws

[chidd88]

Wirelessly posted (Opera/9.80 (BlackBerry; Opera Mini/7.1.32051/28.3445; U; en) Presto/2.8.119 Version/11.10)

This isn't really related, but if anyone is interested, theirs a blog called Second City Cop that was set up by a current and retired Chicago cop. You'll get a great perspective from the Chicago PO's point of view and what they really think. If you have time, check it out .
secondcitycop.blogspot.no/?m=1

[elk2370bruce]

"Add a gallon of adrenaline and horror to the mix and the theory goes to hell."

Isn't that what the NRA wants "their" legislators push as their agenda? Besides Congress has already gone to hel and it unlikely that they will change.

[elk2370bruce]

Originally Posted by W2NJS

Elk2370Bruce wrote above:

" I do not need high capacity clips nor automatic weapons."

That's fine with me but nothing in this thread has anything to do with automatic weapons, which have been closely regulated by the Feds since the nineteen thirties. Using incorrect terminology about weapons is one of the reasons our shrill, hysterical, uninformed liberal establishment is after your Second Amendment rights.

Yeah! And the kids in Newtown were killed with a Nerf gun.

[mikepdx]

Originally Posted by Confuzzled

Tin stars can't just decide for themselves that something is unconstitutional since they are not lawyers, judges or constitutional scholars.

You're absolutely right. Only judges can decide, and the
Supreme court of the United States did just that in 1997 in Printz v. United States:

Part of the defense was that the county sheriff was the supreme law enforcement officer
over their county and that the federal government could not supersede their legal authority.

The decision, in part:
"The Federal Government may neither issue directives requiring the States to
address particular problems, nor command the States' officers, or those of
their political subdivisions, to administer or enforce a federal regulatory program".

Justice Scalia wrote:
“. . . The great innovation of [the] design was that ‘our citizens would have two political capacities,
one state and one federal, each protected from incursion by the other’” –

Printz v. United States, 521 U.S. 898 (1997)

[mikepdx]

re: Printz v. United States (1997)
Ore Sheriff: I wont enforce any new gun laws

[mancow]

Facts are facts whether you like them or not and the weapons used have been in existence for over a half a century. They are nothing special in any way.

It reminds me of the All In The Family episode where Archie tells the daughter, "Would it make you feel better little girl if they was pushed outta windows?"

Originally Posted by elk2370bruce

Yeah! And the kids in Newtown were killed with a Nerf gun.

[gmclam]

If all it took were laws, there would be NO crime! But criminals don't obey the laws (duh).

Guns, knives, cars, bombs, chemicals, etc don't kill - PEOPLE KILL. I remember back when publicly supported mental health (institutions) were shut down and deemed to be "too expensive". I wonder if everyone still thinks they are too expensive.

[04Z1V6]

Colorado sheriff joins other lawmen not enforcing Obama gun control - Long Island Civil Liberties | Examiner.com

[Dude111]

All these ppl who "Wont enforce new gun laws" may be screwed!

IF THEY WANT TO,THEY WILL MAKE THEM THE FIRST NDAA VICTIMS!! (For non complyence)

EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE VERY CAREFUL...... DO NOT SEND ANYTHING WRITTEN IN A LETTER TO THESE PEOPLE!! (They quite crazy and insane)

[mikepdx]

Originally Posted by gmclam

I remember back when publicly supported mental health (institutions) were shut down and deemed to be "too expensive". I wonder if everyone still thinks they are too expensive.

It's the old pay-me-now or pay-me-later adage.

Pay-me-now = The full financing of adequate mental health care and the
identification of those in need EARLY (like while they're still in grade/high school).
OR
Pay-me-later = Crime, Violence, Chaos, Victim's lives ruined.

It's our choice of which way we wish to pay.
But pay we will.

[rdale]

Originally Posted by Dude111

IF THEY WANT TO,THEY WILL MAKE THEM THE FIRST NDAA VICTIMS!! (For non complyence)

Don't you watch Art Bell? NDAA has resulted in the executions of more than 242,023 American citizens who voted Republican in 2012.

[gewecke]

I may get the literary beating for this comment,
but if our (senile) congress want to start passing more gun bills, then how about one that will prohibit parents of mentally ill children living at home, or with access to the home from keeping firearms in the residence?
It seems to me that a large number of homicides with a firearm occur, because someone, somewhere did not take safety precautions to secure their weapons from unauthorized access! If a check was to be done, I'm willing to bet that the legal owners of the weapons used in any of the recent murders did not have even a trigger lock installed at the very least!! If the availability of a weapon to a criminal dries up, then so will some of the crimes with a weapon.
Try to remove one without a key? You WILL damage the weapon first before you get it off the trigger.

Ok, sorry bout the rant. Limiting access by unauthorized use will make a difference.

73,
n9zas

[Confuzzled]

Hey, when Oregon cops barricade themselves and shoot other cops .....

Off-duty Hillsboro police officer arrested after shooting - KPTV - FOX 12

[Confuzzled]

But of course, they're such a trustworthy bunch to begin with.

[Jim41]

Originally Posted by gewecke

I may get the literary beating for this comment,
but if our (senile) congress want to start passing more gun bills, then how about one that will prohibit parents of mentally ill children living at home, or with access to the home from keeping firearms in the residence?
It seems to me that a large number of homicides with a firearm occur, because someone, somewhere did not take safety precautions to secure their weapons from unauthorized access! If a check was to be done, I'm willing to bet that the legal owners of the weapons used in any of the recent murders did not have even a trigger lock installed at the very least!! If the availability of a weapon to a criminal dries up, then so will some of the crimes with a weapon.
Try to remove one without a key? You WILL damage the weapon first before you get it off the trigger.

Ok, sorry bout the rant. Limiting access by unauthorized use will make a difference.

73,
n9zas

An excellent and constructive idea. Thanks for sharing.

Jim41

[mikepdx]

Originally Posted by Confuzzled

But of course, they're such a trustworthy bunch to begin with.

Caution: There are a great many people on this board
that are extremely touchy about that subject.
They seem to believe bad cops are a very special sort of criminal.

Personally, I lump them right in with burglars,
thieves and all of the other types of scum that inhabit the earth.

The above most certainly does not apply to LEOs who make honest mistakes.
We all do that as human beings.

[mdulrich]

The current administration made it very clear that local law enforcement weren't to enforce federal immigration law. Federal firearm laws should be no different.

Mike

[gmclam]

More and more law enforcement officials are coming out with statements that they will not enforce new gun laws. Tuolumne county sheriff said "...in my 25 years in law enforcement, I have not seen one gun law that kept a criminal from breaking the law..." Full story

The El Dorado county sheriff said in part "...gun control does not reduce crime because criminals will always find a way to obtain weapons..." Full story

[Confuzzled]

Who polices the police or ex-police?

Police Investigate Las Vegas Cop Who Killed Family, Himself - ABC News

State Police open fire on distraught Bridgewater man who drove truck at them; suspect arrested with minor injuries - Boston.com

[Thayne]

[QUOTE=Confuzzled;1901565]Who polices the police or ex-police?/QUOTE]

I don't know who, but he better have a gun--