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Old 01-16-2013, 12:10 AM
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ALBANY, Ore. - The sheriff of an Oregon county sent a letter to
Vice President Joe Biden on Monday saying he and his deputies
would not enforce - nor allow federal officials to enforce -
any new federal firearms laws in his county...

Oregon sheriff to VP: I won't enforce any new gun laws | KATU TV Portland Oregon
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Ballsy and courageous, I will give him that.
Now ... if only some our law enforcement officers herein Illinois would step up in the same manner!!
But I doubt the intestinal fortitude is there. Most are to afraid of people like our twisted governor quinn, as well as our senile congress.
My weapons and mags won't go anywhere, unless I allow it.

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Now watch the liberal press completely disregard and take no notice of this official's letter. But who knows? Maybe they'll show some guts and report it.
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It has nothing to do with 'guts' -- this isn't a national story. It's not even a local "news" story, it's a politician wanting to get some free press. Well done! But not newsworthy. And not enforceable.
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Awesome. I'm tired of these people allowing the president to weaken this country and it's people by circumventing the constitution with executive orders.

The government is for the people, by the people, of the people. Not what ever the he77 Barack wants.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:33 AM
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Now watch the liberal press completely disregard and take no notice of this official's letter. But who knows? Maybe they'll show some guts and report it.
At least Fox News did report on this. They even said that a few other states were following suit. I'm surprised that my state wasn't on the list. Who knows, maybe they will wake up sometime this week.
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There's nothing the President proposed that requires local law enforcement actions. Sorry to disappoint all those trying to take advantage of a shooting to increase their political gains...

Resume your tin foil hat creation.
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If this 'toon doesn't want to do his job, he should resign.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:12 PM
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Since the NRA "owns" numerous members of the Senate and the House, these initial efforts will probably come to naught. If our federal legislative bumblers actually introduce and pass bills regarding this matter (which is unlikely), state, county, and local officials have no say as to enforcement by federal law enforcement. This will, most likely go to the Supreme Court for resolution. Does the NRA really speck for the majority of its members? Is it the militia mentality that has the influence over the NRA leadership.

Yes! I have owned both hunting rifles/shotgun as well as a handgun for target practice and home protection. I do not need high capacity clips nor automatic weapons. I hit what I aim at without spreading "max bb's".
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PRINEVILLE, Ore. (AP) — Another Oregon sheriff says he would refuse to
enforce any new federal gun law he believes is unconstitutional.

Crook County Sheriff Jim Hensley said Tuesday he sent the same letter to
Vice President Joe Biden that was sent Monday by Linn County Sheriff Tim Mueller.

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he believes is unconstitutional.
It isn't up to these flat-footed tin stars to decide what it or isn't constitutional.
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Correct.... It's not their decision, it's their duty. That's why they make an oath to the Constitution not a legislative body.
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It is his duty not to violate the Constitution which is exactly what the Feinstein bill mandates.

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If so, then the Supreme Court would handle it. That's not his duty per the Constitution.
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As far as I've seen, Sheriffs are elected, and can be kicked out of office. So while they may have some temporary control, ultimately it will be up to the voters.
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Elk2370Bruce wrote above:

" I do not need high capacity clips nor automatic weapons."

That's fine with me but nothing in this thread has anything to do with automatic weapons, which have been closely regulated by the Feds since the nineteen thirties. Using incorrect terminology about weapons is one of the reasons our shrill, hysterical, uninformed liberal establishment is after your Second Amendment rights.
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It has nothing to do with 'guts' -- this isn't a national story. It's not even a local "news" story, it's a politician wanting to get some free press. Well done! But not newsworthy. And not enforceable.
So you are saying it is OK for the Feds to ignore their own statutes such as illegal immigration, "Fast & Furious" and the Mary Jane laws, yet a county sheriff triggered your sweep?

Evidently it was enough to stimulate you to jump up from the peanut Gallery
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Wrong. By that logic there would be no oath to begin with. Now if it has been declared legal by the scotus then yes that's a different matter.

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Add a gallon of adrenaline and horror to the mix and the theory goes to hell.


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Since the NRA "owns" numerous members of the Senate and the House, these initial efforts will probably come to naught. If our federal legislative bumblers actually introduce and pass bills regarding this matter (which is unlikely), state, county, and local officials have no say as to enforcement by federal law enforcement. This will, most likely go to the Supreme Court for resolution. Does the NRA really speck for the majority of its members? Is it the militia mentality that has the influence over the NRA leadership.

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Nothing has to be declared anything by any court unless challenged.

Tin stars can't just decide for themselves that something is unconstitutional since they are not lawyers, judges or constitutional scholars.
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