Brunswick County

shp08 · #1 (**permalink**) 02-13-2006, 12:06 AM

Is anyone on here scanning with the Brunswick County LTR frequencies given by this website. I have enter all of the frequencies but only one the frequencies works and it is the county dispatch.

52to12 · #2 (**permalink**) 02-16-2006, 03:07 PM

You may not have all of the frequencies that you need for your area. The radio reference list is not complete. Check the ULS on www. fcc.gov . Scroll down right side of page to wireless communications. You can check frequency list by call sign wpxm613 and wypg263. MY F.D.just purchased a BC246t. We will be attempting to program it in the next few days. What scanner are you using?

52to12 · #3 (**permalink**) 02-16-2006, 07:04 PM

Sorry for confusion.second call sign I posted should be wpyg263. My fingers are to fat for laptop keyboard.

jeffmulter · #4 (**permalink**) 02-16-2006, 10:07 PM

I don't know who provided the Brunswick County LTR information to RR ... they might be a very credible source.

But, the information doesn't add up.

If the system is "LTR Standard," as the database says, each frequency for a site will have a logical channel number (LCN). The LCNs can run from 1 through 20. Usually, the LCNs won't look so "pretty" ... either they will go in a sequence that skips some LCN assignments, and / or the frequencies won't be in perfect ascending order.

The LCNs for all the sites in the Brunswick Co data are 1,2,3 or 1,2,3,4, and the frequencies are all in ascending order.

The other problem I have with the information is how someone would have determined the LCNs without having captured any talkgroup I-Ds. There are a couple of scanners you can use to easily determine the LCNs, but they require monitoring active transmissions, which would reveal talkgroup I-Ds.

The other method of determining the LCNs is trial and error. Again, you need active communications to use this method.

If you don't have accurate LCN information, you - the hobbyist - won't be able to "track" the talkgroups on the system. Any of the current scanners capable of LTR Standard monitoring require a correct LCN setup.

( You could still monitor slower systems, as LTR Standard talkgroups tend to stay on their "home" frequency, unless that frequency is already in use by another talkgroup. )

LTR Standard is a fine trunking system for business use, from what I've read in the past, but maybe not suited to the critical needs and demands of public safety. I have to wonder if this system might be a different flavor of LTR ... possibly Passport or Multinet ... which would not be trackable by any current scanners.

Just my thoughts.

Jeff Multer

fmon · #5 (**permalink**) 02-16-2006, 10:21 PM

I think the Pro-92/2067 will scan LTR Standard in any order. Maybe you don't consider them current though.

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Any of the current scanners capable of LTR Standard monitoring require a correct LCN setup.

Grog · #6 (**permalink**) 02-17-2006, 01:09 AM

I'd say if you can't buy one in the last year, they are not current.

I'm glad I'm not there anymore, things finally started working sorta good in the late 90s.

jeffmulter · #7 (**permalink**) 02-17-2006, 04:31 AM

>> I think the Pro-92/2067 will scan LTR Standard in any order. Maybe you don't consider them current though.

Got me, Frank !

Maybe not "current," but they are still a good choice for monitoring LTR Standard.

I still am suspect about the information, though. I hope someone "in the know" will comment with more information.

Jeff

fmon · #8 (**permalink**) 02-17-2006, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffmulter

I still am suspect about the information

Me too, we traveled through in late Sept 04 on our way to Jax FL. Both systems were listed as Motorola at that time, obviously, I didn't hear a beep but I don't think anything was in use either. On the retiurn trip, we hung out in your neck of the woods for a night.

airbear21200 · #9 (**permalink**) 02-18-2006, 05:13 PM

Has anyone seen or know what make and model radios are being used in Brunswick for this LTR system ???

Dave

drew6553 · #10 (**permalink**) 02-18-2006, 05:17 PM

kenwood
TK-280/380 portable
and mobile is the TK-780/880 i believe with the key pad on mic

cant be 100 percent sure but yea i will find out later

52to12 · #11 (**permalink**) 02-18-2006, 11:15 PM

The mobile radio model being installed in fire apparatus is Kenwood TK-780 VHF transceiver. Not sure of portables at this time.

52to12 · #12 (**permalink**) 02-18-2006, 11:30 PM

The mobile radio model being installed in fire apparatus is Kenwood TK-780 VHF transceiver. Not sure of portables at this time.

drew6553 · #13 (**permalink**) 02-19-2006, 11:16 AM

its probably the 280/380 hey 52 to 12 whats you're location ?

drew6553 · #14 (**permalink**) 02-19-2006, 11:43 AM

can someone give me the fcc website where i can go check all the freqs liscensed to brunswick county for this ? i am going to spend time going through and cecking all the freqs for vhf and uhf

fmon · #15 (**permalink**) 02-19-2006, 11:58 AM

By Radio Service http://wireless.fcc.gov/uls/radioservices.html
By Callsign http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsS...rchLicense.jsp
Most Callsigns are found at this link http://www.radioreference.com/module...c&xid=1896&t=2 ,which is at the bottom of the DB page for Brunswick Co.

drew6553 · #16 (**permalink**) 02-19-2006, 02:42 PM

well i am trying to verify the info in the db for this headache inducing radio system

here's somethign interesting according to the fcc lisencee WPMX613 is expired as of march 14 2004 hmmm and thats the call sign for most of thse listed

52to12 · #17 (**permalink**) 02-19-2006, 05:54 PM

I just checked license for WPXM613 on FCC ULS data base. License is active. Has an expiration date 0f 06/06/2013. I have also been picking up a few of the fire departments being toned out on 155.520. Once they are toned out communications are back on 154.415. 155.520 is listed as a conventional frequency.not part of trunked. It must be a temporary thing since the cutover to the trunked system has now once again been postponed until mid March . An additional software upgrade has to be installed.

JerGoTV3 · #18 (**permalink**) 02-20-2006, 11:00 AM

A pleasant surprise lately...I've actually been hearing BrunsCo fairly decent. Not sure what that's all about. I don't trunk them, just follow conventionally.

52to12 · #19 (**permalink**) 02-20-2006, 02:32 PM

I checked the RR data base with the F.C.C. data base for both call signs. The RR only lists FB2C (mobile-relay interconnect). RR does not list the many MO (mobile) frequencies that are listed on the licenses on FCC. Are just FB2C freq's sufficient to monitor all traffic???

52to12 · #20 (**permalink**) 02-24-2006, 09:49 AM

Cutover of VHF trunked system for fire and ems has been delayed indefintely due to additional software upgrade at C-Com and pending modifaction program by Kenwood that will improve radio interoperability. According to an article in the newspaper last week Emergency Mgmt. Director reported to ths County Commissioners That all LEO had been switched to the new (UHF) system as of Feb. 8th. SHP still using their own VHF lo band. 155.520 is listed as the paging frequencies for all 9 sites.