Raleigh PD testing 800Mhz

[KE4ZNR]

Raleigh PD on 800Mhz

Afternoon everyone,
As myself and others have reported in the past Raleigh PD (Wake County) is in the process of moving to the Wake County/VIPER/State of NC 800Mhz system...the database has the current talkgroups used...Here is how the radios are programmed:

As many of you are aware Raleigh PD divides up the city into 6 Districts...a map of the 6 districts is available here at RR.com:
http://tinyurl.com/2stv34
Each Districts Radios should be setup in the following format:

1. District Specific Dispatch
2. District Specific Status
3. District Specific "Tac 1"
4. District Specific "Tac 2"
5. 7 Citywide "LE Ops" Talkgroups Numbered 5-12

.As with most other Trunked systems these talkgroups have the capability to be patched together if need be...so if there is only dispatcher available to dispatch northside calls the 2100, 2200, & 2300 Dispatch talkgroups can be patched together...

All I can say it is going to be a weird day when Raleigh PD 1 UHF 460.150Mhz goes silent...20+ years of monitoring Raleigh PD's radio traffic on that frequency and it will seem weird not to have it around...

Happy Monitoring & Stay Safe!
Marshall KE4ZNR
KE4ZNR@radioreference.com

 

[dvferguson]

Thanks for the info Marshall.
I don't think I'll miss that annoying humming noise on the Raleigh UHF channels.

Dave

 

[WA4MJF]

Looks as if there will be at least one UHF channel still in use.

 

[Chris-M]

Using T4WIN I have logged a few TG's that appear to be RPD as well.

40112
40144
40160
40176
40416


I haven't had time to monitor them the past couple of days.

Do these jive with any info you have Marshall?

 

[KE4ZNR]

Using T4WIN I have logged a few TG's that appear to be RPD as well.

40112
40144
40160
40176
40416


I haven't had time to monitor them the past couple of days.

Do these jive with any info you have Marshall?

40160 appears to be District 25 Status...
40112 may be one of the other district dispatch TGs
40144 & 40176 possible other District Status TGs
40416 use still unknown.
Will investigate and advise further when I have updated info.
Please keep me updated with what you find out!
Happy Monitoring!
Marshall KE4ZNR

 

[mhoward785]

I found a few more Raleigh PD talkgroups:

40032 – Patch to UHF Ch 1
40192 – Patch to UHF Ch 2
40144 – Patch to UHF Ch 3

(Monitored throughout the day on 11/28/07.)

 

[Chris-M]

The past couple of days, on TG 40640, I have heard undercover surveillance. Not sure what agency but they were following someone near NC State on Hillsborough Street, all around that area Tuesday and today they were active again but on a different case. Interesting listening!

Thanks for the Talkgroup info Matt. I have little time to try and figure them out right now.

 

[mhoward785]

I heard the undercover ops on TG 40640 too. I'm not sure that it is Raleigh PD. I heard someone say "our agent is in the **** car" and "franklin county boys, you can move in." Could it be FBI, US Marshalls, or some other organization working with multiple local agencies? It was interesting listening!

I also heard “test, test” on TG 40656, but obviously I’m not sure what this TG is so I hadn’t mentioned it before.

 

[mhoward785]

Raleigh PD Ch 1 is now patched to TG 40096.

I wish they would make up their mind!

 

[KE4ZNR]

Gentlemen,
Keep in mind that there will be 6 dispatch Talkgroups (one for each sector)...dispatchers may link these 6 dispatch talkgroups in any combination depending on how many dispatchers are available to dispatch out calls....so you will hear Raleigh 1 UHF dispatched over as many as 6 different talkgroup IDs...our job is to match the dispatch talkgroup IDs with each one of the 6 sectors....We know the following is correct:
40016= District 21 Dispatch
40048= District 23 Dispatch
Obviously we need to figure out the following:
? =District 22 Dispatch
? =District 24 Dispatch
? =District 25 Dispatch
? =District 26 Dispatch
We also need to figure out the other 5 Status Talkgroups besides District 22 (40128)...
This is where teamwork is key and if you guys find anything new please feel free to PM or email me...
Thanks and happy Monitoring!
Marshall KE4ZNR

 

[mhoward785]

Thanks for the clarification Marshall. I'll approach this a little differently now. Looking at the data, I see a pattern:

*40016 - RPD District 21 Dispatch \
40032 - RPD District 22 Dispatch? \
*40048 - RPD District 23 Dispatch \ All 6 of these currently patched to 40096 and units are calling "Raleigh 1"
40064 - RPD District 24 Dispatch? /
40080 - RPD District 25 Dispatch? /
40096 - RPD District 26 Dispatch? /

40112 - RPD District 21 Status? \
*40128 - RPD District 22 Status --- All 3 of these currently patched to 40144 and units are calling "Raleigh 3"
40144 - RPD District 23 Status? /

40160 - RPD District 24 Status? \
40076 - RPD District 25 Status? --- All 3 of these currently patched to 40192 and units are calling "Raleigh 2"
40192 - RPD District 26 Status? /

The TGs with * next to them are previously confirmed. The rest are a logical guess based on the pattern created by confirmed TGs, numerical progression of talkgroup IDs, and the fact that UniTrunker is currently showing the patches noted above.

I've heard some additional activity on 40656, 40640, and 40416 but I can’t figure out what these channels are named.

 

[mhodgson]

They are actually not patching the talkgroups together....they are using a feature called talkgroup merge that allows talkgroups to be "merged" together to allow radio users to familiarize themselves with unique home talkgroups (like Raleigh PD districts) while bringing them all together. It is my understanding that Raleigh/Wake 911 is not prepared to be able to monitor ALL the talkgroups of each district so for now they are using the merge option to cut the number of talkgroups down to help 911 out.

 

[pboy]

They are actually not patching the talkgroups together....they are using a feature called talkgroup merge that allows talkgroups to be "merged" together to allow radio users to familiarize themselves with unique home talkgroups (like Raleigh PD districts) while bringing them all together. It is my understanding that Raleigh/Wake 911 is not prepared to be able to monitor ALL the talkgroups of each district so for now they are using the merge option to cut the number of talkgroups down to help 911 out.

Is merge the same as multiselect? If not, how are they different?

 

[dvferguson]

Any updates to the Raleigh PD talkgroups list?

TX
Dave

 

[rpgallagher]

The LE Ops channels are very active and seem to be the preferred mode now for on-scene ops and PD-EMS comms. LE Ops 5 seems to go into use first, and 6 is not unusual. I don't hear as much on the higher ones.

 

[Chris-KH2PM]

I don't listen to the RPD TG's on VIPER much. I do run T4WIN and UniTrunker almost 24/7, and have logged MANY talkgroups just for RPD that aren't yet on the RR VIPER site.

 

[mhodgson]

Talkgroup Merge

Tom, it depends....in some cases multi select can result in the same number of unique channels on the system being consumed as there are talk groups selected in the multi selection. Talk group merge SHOULD result in only ONE channel on the system being allocated for the call...sort of like the old Super Group concept in SmartNet.

M

 

[pboy]

Tom, it depends....in some cases multi select can result in the same number of unique channels on the system being consumed as there are talk groups selected in the multi selection. Talk group merge SHOULD result in only ONE channel on the system being allocated for the call...sort of like the old Super Group concept in SmartNet.

M

Thanks.

I never heard of it before.

 

[jthorpe]

I'm curious why the talkgroups on my 996 show up as 40035 etc where on my 796, they show up correctly. For instance, 40035 on the 996 is 40032 on the 796. I'm losing it here with this 996 lately.

 

[KE4ZNR]

I'm curious why the talkgroups on my 996 show up as 40035 etc where on my 796, they show up correctly. For instance, 40035 on the 996 is 40032 on the 796. I'm losing it here with this 996 lately.

Hey brother,
http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Motorola_Type_II
Look at the info under "Status Bits"...you want to go into your 996 and set the scanner to "Ignore Status Bits"....basically what you are seeing is talkgroup 40032 plus 3 (3 on the status bit list is one Talkgroup patch to another)....
Hope this helps!