Ohio MARCS - IP (Project 25 System)

[quarterwave]

I see Fayette county is on this now. I heard the state was putting in one site there to put the Sheriff on, the TRBO system they bought didn't work out...so M bought it back and put them on MARCS.

Are their radios able to also talk on the existing NON-IP based network too?

[tonya]

This AM around 10:30 I heard allot of traffic on 59685. It sounded like an FD training session. I did make out MABAS Comand but the other units were generic like E-1 L-1 nothing I could easily ID. At the time I was on 271 South not far from the Beachwood tower. Later in the day I heard TG 27555. This also sounded like a FD training session but I did make out E-6 and and Main Street command. Other then Cleveland FD I don't know of a Engine 6 in the Cuyhoga-Lake county areas. This was about 3;00 and I was on 480 West also near the Beachwood tower.

[budevans]

Originally Posted by tonya

This AM around 10:30 I heard allot of traffic on 59685. It sounded like an FD training session. I did make out MABAS Comand but the other units were generic like E-1 L-1 nothing I could easily ID. At the time I was on 271 South not far from the Beachwood tower. Later in the day I heard TG 27555. This also sounded like a FD training session but I did make out E-6 and and Main Street command. Other then Cleveland FD I don't know of a Engine 6 in the Cuyhoga-Lake county areas. This was about 3;00 and I was on 480 West also near the Beachwood tower.

Tonya,

TG59685: Has been active this past week with fire training exercises. During one of the first training exercises I heard traffic directed to a Lakewood engine. Note: I haven't heard any other current references to Lakewood. Prior to that this TG was used by Lakewood Fire Command during hurricane Sandy. If I were to take a guess, I'd say it's a Cuyahoga County Fire TAC TG.

TG27555: I haven't caught any traffic on this TG. But, looking at the RR database this TG sits right in the middle of the Lake County Fire TG's. Many of Lake County's western communities (Willoughby, Wickliffe, etc..) are carried on both the Lake and Cuyahoga P25 systems.

Thanks for the update. Please keep posting what you are hearing. That's the only way we can identify the (TG's) systems users.

FYI: Since the MARCS (Cuyahoga) P25 is a Simulcast system, all 13 (Cuyahoga system) towers carry the same traffic. Gone are the days where you hear traffic tied to a specific tower.

[LZ56]

Originally Posted by budevans

TG27555: I haven't caught any traffic on this TG. But, looking at the RR database this TG sits right in the middle of the Lake County Fire TG's. Many of Lake County's western communities (Willoughby, Wickliffe, etc..) are carried on both the Lake and Cuyahoga P25 systems..

I heard some of that FD training exercise on TG 27555. Sounded like they were practicing radio communications procedures. Based on radio IDs, it was personnel from Mentor, Wickliffe, Concord, and Madison .... maybe more since I didn't constantly look at the HP-1.

[tonya]

As mentioned earlair TG 59685 is most likly a Lakewood FD tac channel or a Cuyahoga FD tac channel.
At around 10:30AM today there was another training session going on but this time I heard the street McKinley which is in Lakewood and Rocky River calling Lakewood comand.

[GHF]

Tg 14486

maybe solon fd channel 2

raido id's seem to match up


tg 19524

fd bainbridge testing


tg 27555 and 27585

seems to be lake co fd's training channel


tg 59685

heard lakewood and rocky river fd's training

[rr1965]

I have been monitoring Lake County FD's tonight and have come across some radio id's, thought some might be interested.

Madison FD requested m/a tonight. Thompson (Geauga Co.) came. I noted id 2807005 and 2807013 for their units. Harpersfield (Ashtabula Co.) was on 4385560. This was all on Madison's talkgroup.

Kirtland FD was responding to an injury accident and Chardon (Geauga Co.) also responded. Chardon radio id was 2804xxx. Could not get the rest. This was on Kirtland's talkgroup.

[GHF]

A couple to listen for...

Tg 27559 univ life flight

tg 27516 lake co tac 7

didn't catch radio id's....

[GHF]

A couple of odd tg's that showed up on this system.

Tg 40512 no raidio id caught..

Tg 54600 radio id 6790134...if it follows the county id system it would be portage county.

I did not hear the traffic of either but logged as hits.

[wa8pyr]

Originally Posted by GHF

Tg 54600 radio id 6790134...if it follows the county id system it would be portage county.

If it's MARCS-IP then it should be a probable Portage County radio; everybody is pretty finicky about making sure that the ID plan is adhered to.

[OHIOSCAN]

Had Warrensville Sqd clg Chagrin Disp on TG 13551, guessing he was on wrong TG? Did not hear Chagrin reply.

Mike

[a388sig2]

Heard, "engine 3 to Dominic, on Channel 2."

"Ok, loud and clear, switching to channel 15."

East Com channel 2?

[mtindor]

Picked up a Site 1-098 today. Given my location, my beam heading and its signal strength, I"m guessing it is in Dellroy (or some other part of Carroll Co), Stark, Northern Columbiana Co or Southern Mahoning Co.

It lists Site 1-099 as a connected neighbor and Site 1-003 as a nonconnected neighbor. I added site 1-098 and 1-099 to the database. I did not add Site 1-003 since it's questionable whether it will be a site neighbor of this one. Long term, I question whether these site numbers will remain as they are now. There are plenty of pending apps for MARCS-IP 700 Mhz sites, some in the area of these sites. So I suspect once licenses are granted, frequencies may change and we may actually be able to determine the sites.

If I get some time this week I might actually find out where 098 and 099 are.

mike

[budevans]

Originally Posted by a388sig2

Heard, "engine 3 to Dominic, on Channel 2."

"Ok, loud and clear, switching to channel 15."

East Com channel 2?

Eastcom 2 is TG13500.

The first confirmed traffic on TG59685 was Lakewood Fire Command, during Hurricane Sandy. Then nothing. Recently fire training traffic for Lakewood, Rocky River and possibly others has also been reported on TG59685. So there's only been sporadic use.

The 59XXX TG number is not inline with other known Fire Departments on the MARCS Cuyahoga P25. Most of the Fire Departments TG's start with 13XXX and a few with 14XXX.

Until we hear and identify other traffic on 59XXX TG's or someone in the know comes forward with specifics. I think it's going to remain a question.

[KWs]

EastCom Fire Depts dont use E1, E3 etc type apparatus numbering ..
Solon uses that type identification, as do Lakewood, & I think North Olmstead.

Just going to have to keep listening ...

[LZ56]

4303xxx = Lake County Engineer

4344xxx = Concord Road Dept.

[LZ56]

Originally Posted by LZ56

4303xxx = Lake County Engineer

4344xxx = Concord Road Dept.

OOPS ..... Lake County Engineer (Road Dept) is actually 4304xxx.

[truck2799]

Heres a quick list of FDs and there apparatus that Westcom dispatches for:

North Ridgeville, Westlake, Fairview Park, Bay Village, Rocky River, North Olmsted, and Lakewood.

North Ridgeville Station # 1
Truck 23
Engine 21
Medic 28
Medic 27
Car 24
Car 30
Car 20
Car 29
Car 31
Boat
Dive Trailer

North Ridgeville Station # 2
Truck 22
Medic 26
Medic 25

Westlake Station # 1
Truck 7*
Engine 71
Medic 71
Medic 7*

Westlake Station # 2
Truck 7*
Engine 72
Medic 72

Fairview Park FD
Truck 31
Engine 3*
Engine 35
Medic 31
Medic 3*
Car 3*

Bay Village FD
Truck 1*
Engine 14
Engine 11
Squad 11
Squad 12
Car 1*

Rocky River FD
Truck 66
Engine 64
Engine 6*
Medic 63
Medic 6*
Boat

North Olmsted Station # 1
Engine 2
Squad 51
Ladder 1

North Olmsted Station # 2
Engine 3
Squad 52
Squad 53

Lakewood Station # 1
Truck 1
Squad 1
Car 2 (Assistant Chief / Shift Commander)
Hook & Ladder 1 (reserve)
Squad 4 (reserve)
Squad 5 (reserve)
Air Unit
Car 1
Car 3
Car 4
Car 5
Car6

Lakewood Station # 2
Engine 2
Squad 2

Lakewood Station # 3
Engine 3
Engine 4 (reserve)
Squad 3

[GHF]

New tg's heard today with radio id's

tg radio id
14488 1891778
13570 1891781
13570 1891799
13570 1891803
13570 1891809
14488 1891811
13570 1891891 radio service ?
14488 1891891 radio service ?

May be the same service...radio id's seem to be in the same group...

Did not hear any radio traffic other than testing.....

Any help here????

[GHF]

This may be Lakewood Ohio Police TG

Heard today re: funeral escort.