City of Cleveland Project 25 TRS - Page 5

budevans · #81 (**permalink**) 10-30-2012, 3:46 PM

Sunday evening I received multiple hits for TG's 56215 and 56285. Just mic's keyed up for several seconds, dead air no talking.

Noticed that radio ID's for Cleveland's testing all start with 43XXXXX. Since they are a stand alone system, they can use any ID pattern they wish.
But, Cleveland has said they'd be patching to the MARCS-IP P25 system. I would have thought that they'd follow the MARCS County numbering system and use ID's starting with 18.

Could they be eventually patching through the MARCS Lake County Controller? In that case ID's starting with 43 might make sense if there's some form of controller hierarchy.

wa8pyr · #82 (**permalink**) 10-31-2012, 9:28 AM

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Originally Posted by budevans

Sunday evening I received multiple hits for TG's 56215 and 56285. Just mic's keyed up for several seconds, dead air no talking.

Noticed that radio ID's for Cleveland's testing all start with 43XXXXX. Since they are a stand alone system, they can use any ID pattern they wish.
But, Cleveland has said they'd be patching to the MARCS-IP P25 system. I would have thought that they'd follow the MARCS County numbering system and use ID's starting with 18.

Could they be eventually patching through the MARCS Lake County Controller? In that case ID's starting with 43 might make sense if there's some form of controller hierarchy.

They're supposed to follow the statewide numbering scheme and use numbers which begin with 18, but may have been using radio IDs (or radios) borrowed from Lake County. From an interoperability standpoint, if they connect the Cleveland system to MARCS-IP through an ISSI, then they should use 18xxxxx IDs.

GHF · #83 (**permalink**) 11-03-2012, 3:05 PM

Prez in town today.

Anybody hear anything on this system.

I heard nothing.

Ed_Azalea · #84 (**permalink**) 11-03-2012, 3:10 PM

Nope.

Heard stuff on the P25 system Lake Co. TAC TG's.

GHF · #85 (**permalink**) 11-03-2012, 4:01 PM

Ed:

Yep lots of traffic on the Lake Co. side of system. Lake Tac 1 and Lake 2. re: Prez visit. Seems that the FD was using Lake Tac 2 and the PD using Tac 1. Held at Mentor High School.

Several cities involved as lots of raidio ID's involved.

Another TG used during this time was TG27696 (New Lake System) radio ID# 4312312 re: warehouse and vehicles. Thinking maybe a county freq used by the Lake county goverment. They seemed to be involed in the visit.

Just a note 21856 on the Ohio Marcs system (other system) carried traffic re: motorcade from Burke Airport.re: prez vist. Nothing in DB to identify this TG.

Ed_Azalea · #86 (**permalink**) 11-06-2012, 11:34 AM

TGID 56538 testing.

radios4bill · #87 (**permalink**) 11-06-2012, 5:54 PM

Was there voice with that testing you heard? I was in downtown Cleveland today around 4 PM and had a ID 18???? coming up but no voice? What was heard by others? Bill

Ed_Azalea · #88 (**permalink**) 11-06-2012, 6:10 PM

Yes they actually said "testing" the one time I heard it about 11:00 AM. It logged several other times that I wasn't around to hear. Also TGID 998 was logged once at 2:42 PM.

budevans · #89 (**permalink**) 11-06-2012, 6:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed_Azalea

Yes they actually said "testing" the one time I heard it about 11:00 AM. It logged several other times that I wasn't around to hear. Also TGID 998 was logged once at 2:42 PM.

Thanks for the feedback. I was getting concerned. I hadn't heard a voice on this system in a while.

radios4bill · #90 (**permalink**) 11-06-2012, 7:43 PM

What are you using to log? Does it also record the voice?

Ed_Azalea · #91 (**permalink**) 11-06-2012, 9:03 PM

Me? I use Frescan with a BCD996XT. It's capable of recording but I seldom use it.

radios4bill · #92 (**permalink**) 11-08-2012, 5:52 PM

More testing of radios not the system. Talkgroup 56285 with radio ID 4180098 and Talkgroup 4 with radio ID 4180001

budevans · #93 (**permalink**) 11-09-2012, 1:02 PM

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Originally Posted by radios4bill

More testing of radios not the system. Talkgroup 56285 with radio ID 4180098 and Talkgroup 4 with radio ID 4180001

I also heard testing going on all afternoon yesterday. Early in the afternoon the traffic was on TG56285 then later 4:30 to 6:30 P.M. traffic moved to TG4.

The radio ID's that I saw were 4180098 and 4180099, I wasn't always in visual range to see the ID's.

I've been wondering what type of testing was being done? The pattern was the same over and over. The transmissions would start out perfectly clear. Then I'd hear Testing Testing, how does this sound? How about now, and now (then the transmission would start to Pixelate, then go to total Pixelation (unreadable). As I said before this pattern would keep repeating.

I started to think that some sort of system fine tuning was going on. I couldn't come up with a reason to keep testing the same to radio's over and over. Especially since the transmission would start out perfectly clear and then as adjustments were made fall off to totally unreadable.

If anyone has any insights, I'd like to hear them.

eorange · #94 (**permalink**) 11-09-2012, 1:20 PM

Fine tuning sounds reasonable, unless it's possible they were testing the big "E".

budevans · #95 (**permalink**) 11-09-2012, 1:58 PM

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Originally Posted by eorange

Fine tuning sounds reasonable, unless it's possible they were testing the big "E".

The big "E", doubtful. When the system basics are setup and fully tested, then you move to enabling the big "E". In todays world the big "E" is a matter making sure the settings are the same. There's no fine tuning, it works or it doesn't. If it doesn't work, then you missed a setting. The standards are well defined.

This was a series of progressive adjustments that started with perfectly clear audio and ended at the point of total Pixelation.

budevans · #96 (**permalink**) 11-09-2012, 2:43 PM

Just got a hit on my scanner for a new TG 56553, plus the radio ID started with 18 (cuyahoga county id).

mrlightfoot · #97 (**permalink**) 11-09-2012, 4:46 PM

city of cleveland where testing a mobile today about that time, and they do start with 18,wonder if it was them

budevans · #98 (**permalink**) 11-09-2012, 4:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mrlightfoot

city of cleveland where testing a mobile today about that time, and they do start with 18,wonder if it was them

The transmissions from the radio with ID 1879303 sounded like someone having a good time. The last transmission I monitored before going to dinner was:

"Hi everybody, how yah do-in!"

Not your typical radio check.

budevans · #99 (**permalink**) 11-10-2012, 6:41 PM

Monitoring activity on TG56120. Two members of the Kennel or Animal shelter discussing their activities (dogs, cats, coffee breaks).

Radio ID's 1836020 and 1836022.

I won't report this TG for posting until there is additional traffic confirmation.

GHF · #**100** (**permalink**) 11-11-2012, 1:37 PM

Bud:

Also heared this traffic.

Thinking of maybe Animal Control.

Also heard the "F" word on this channel.

Maybe they don't know others can hear.

GHF