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Old 08-20-2013, 11:45 AM
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I have been running Pro96Com the past few days on the new Ottawa County System. There was some activity on the system yesterday but nothing so far today. I have logged three radio ID's and one talkgroup. For those in and around Ottawa County it may be worth while to enter this system into your scanners.
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Last night, we had very good tropo ducting on the 700/800 MHz bands. I was able to copy a P25 control channel on 854.3625 MHz. The system ID is 018, and the WACN is 00001. At first, I thought this was the Parma P25 TRS, but after doing some research, it belongs to Ottawa County near Toledo. Apparently, they are connected to the Parma Project 25 TRS. Does anyone know more about this setup?

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There was a submission made for this system this morning that has more details about it #140851
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There was a submission made for this system this morning that has more details about this system #140851
I just owned it.

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Are you thinking this is their new system, or just an outreach of the P2 MARCS expansion? I'll be there next weekend with a Phase2 scanner.
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Are you thinking this is their new system, or just an outreach of the P2 MARCS expansion? I'll be there next weekend with a Phase2 scanner.
This is a separate, but now regional trunking system built by Harris Radio. Apparently, they have no plans at this time to connect directly to the MARCS P25 TRS. However, Ottawa County's radios will have access to key talkgroups on the new statewide MARCS TRS.

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This is a separate, but now regional trunking system built by Harris Radio. Apparently, they have no plans at this time to connect directly to the MARCS P25 TRS.
And it really doesn't even meet the typical definition of regional; Parma in west central Cuyahoga County, and Port Clinton in eastern Ottawa County, are separated by 75 miles. The western end of Ottawa County is nearly 100 miles from Parma. Regional in the typical sense in this context means adjacent cities, or adjacent counties, or adjacent states, where there is some talkgroup sharing intended. 75-100 mile separation between sites with no intervening coverage really brings a new meaning to "regional."

It's a good way to share resources and keep costs down, since one main purpose of the Harris core is to keep the databases at the sites up to date; they don't need a very high-bandwidth network connection for that. Otherwise they can (and probably will) stand alone and never have anything to do with one another.

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do Ottawa County EDACS talk group work with the new P25 radio or they going to have all new talk group??
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I'm not quite sure what you're saying. If you're asking about talkgroup IDs, they will be changing since the old system (EDACS) uses talkgroup IDs that are not compatible with the new.
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FCC shows this as a 5-freq system as WQRK593. It appears they are re-using some of the frequencies from the current EDACS.

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Otherwise they can (and probably will) stand alone and never have anything to do with one another..
The comment made in the news entry was that other towers might be built in between CLE & TOL to expand the reach of the system, and that caught my eye?
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when the new P25 radio system up and runing can i heat from cleveland OH?
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I would doubt it. Can you hear the current system?
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one more thing i don't see talk groups ID on MARCS X2-TDMA but i only see the freq? for the ottawa county OH
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That's a different system. Ottawa County isn't using that, there's just a tower there for OSP / others.
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The comment made in the news entry was that other towers might be built in between CLE & TOL to expand the reach of the system, and that caught my eye?
If they get that going, that's good.
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With MARCS in play, who would use it?
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Default Parma no plans for P25 ISSI

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This is a separate, but now regional trunking system built by Harris Radio. Apparently, they have no plans at this time to connect directly to the MARCS P25 TRS.


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Yes, for a price.
Back in June I had a chance to speak with a member of Parma's Radio Advisory Group. I asked if Parma was working with Cleveland or MARCS to connect their P25 systems. He said that Parma had no plans to purchase or install a P25 ISSI.

If Ottawa is determined to connect to MARCS they could pay for the P25 ISSI setup. Or they could chose to have their radio's setup for access to both systems. As Tom noted, it comes down to the cost.
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Thanks for the intel - I'll be down next weekend...
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I drove by the Clay Center tower yesterday only to find a crew working on the tower. I would imagine it won't be long until we start hearing activity on the system. When I worked in Ottawa County I read a document from about 2 years ago that laid out the plans for upgrading the system. At that time the Clay Center tower was going to be the last tower they worked on before field testing began.

Also on the MARCS point. As of the end of 2012 the plan was to program interop talkgroups from the new MARCS P25 system into the radios. There was also talk of putting talkgroups from the NWOPSRS into radios in Ottawa County.
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