trying to get jefferson county in weirton,wv

[Medziatkowicz35]

I am trying to get Jefferson county marcs in weirton,wv and sometimes I get a good Jefferson sheriff transmission but most of the time it is choppy and I never get a good transmission from Steubenville city and nothing at all from OHP Wintersville or St Clairsville or odot district 11.
What am I doing wrong? I am using the Motorola marcs for ohp and odot and ip for Steubenville and sheriff.

 

[W8RMH]

You are probably experiencing Simulcast Digital Distortion off the Jefferson County site which is a multi-tower simulcast site.

ODOT is on the IP system and OSHP may be too as most posts have switched to the IP system. They are off different sites than Jefferson County namely Adena and/or Stratton. There is a good chance the old MARCS system is no longer in use.

 

[Medziatkowicz35]

So how do I solve simulcast distortion? How can I get signals from ohp and odot?

 

[budevans]

So how do I solve simulcast distortion? How can I get signals from ohp and odot?

As W8RMH mentioned in his post, OSP and ODOT have most likely moved to MARCS-IP. You can add the OSP and ODOT Talk Groups to your Jefferson MARCS-IP.

Regarding Adena and Stratton, you have the CC freq's from my reply to your post in the Radio Shack Scanners forum.

About your setup. I would recommend that you setup each as their own standalone system. In other words. Have a Jefferson MARCS-IP system, then create a Adena MARCS-IP system and then a Stratton MARCS-IP system. One additional comment regarding Adena and Stratton, they are a decent distance from your location. You may not be able to receive them. Setting them up is the only way to know for sure.

Here's the Talk Group info for OSP and ODOT:

Jefferson: OSP District 7
51530 c94a D XCAMBRGE Post 30 (Cambridge) District HQ / post patrol Law Dispatch
51541 c955 D XPOST41 Post 41 (Steubenville) Dispatch Law Dispatch
51560 c968 D XPOST60 Post 60 (Zanesville) Dispatch Law Dispatch
51584 c980 D XPOST84 Post 84 (Marietta) Dispatch Law Dispatch
51598 c98e E XP07TAC Post 7 (St Clairsville) Tac Law Tac
51615 c99f E XP30TAC Post 30 (Cambridge) Tac Law Tac
51620 c9a4 E XP41TAC Post 41 (Steubenville) Tac Law Tac
51632 c9b0 E XP60TAC Post 60 (Zanesville) Tac Law Tac
51643 c9bb E XP79TAC Post 79 (New Philadelphia) Tac Law Tac
51752 ca28 D XSTCLAIR Post 07 (St Clairsville) Dispatch Law Dispatch
51753 ca29 D XCAM-TECH District Radio Technicians Public Works
51760 ca30 D XNEWPHIL Post 79 (New Philadelphia) Dispatch Law Dispatch

ODOT: District 11
53065 cf49 D D11-MAIN District 11 - Main Public Works
53346 d062 D D11-BEL Belmont County Operations Public Works
53348 d064 D D11-CAR Carroll County Operations Public Works
53350 d066 D D11-COL Columbiana Co Operations Public Works
53352 d068 D D11-HAR Harrison County Operations Public Works
53354 d06a D D11-HOL Holmes County Operations Public Works
53356 d06c D D11-JEF Jefferson County Operations Public Works
53358 d06e D D11-TUS Tuscarawas County Operations Public Works
53360 d070 D D11-OPS District 11 - Operations Public Works
53383 d087 D D11-MTC1 District 11 - Maintenance 1 Public Works
53396 d094 D D11-MTC2 District 11 - Maintenance 2 Public Works

 

[Medziatkowicz35]

I can get sheriff and sometimes police clearly but no ohp or odot.

 

[Medziatkowicz35]

what is the easiest way to program a scanner and is there a scanner that will pickup better than the pro 652 that I can get for 250 which is what I would sell the pro 652 for on ebay or craigslist probably.

 

[rcool101]

You are probably experiencing Simulcast Digital Distortion off the Jefferson County site which is a multi-tower simulcast site.

ODOT is on the IP system and OSHP may be too as most posts have switched to the IP system. They are off different sites than Jefferson County namely Adena and/or Stratton. There is a good chance the old MARCS system is no longer in use.

ODOT and OSP are definitely on Jeff Co. Everything is if it's MARCS IP

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[rcool101]

what is the easiest way to program a scanner and is there a scanner that will pickup better than the pro 652 that I can get for 250 which is what I would sell the pro 652 for on ebay or craigslist probably.

Maybe someone can tell you how to put your 652 in Search mode instead of Scan mode. I have all my radios on Search for MARCS IP. Never know what you will pick up. Everything. I've never owned a RS scanner

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[Medziatkowicz35]

Would a different radio help or no?

 

[Medziatkowicz35]

OK what is the best radio for this area? I don't think my 652 is good so unless I can figure it out I'm selling it on Craigslist.

 

[W8RMH]

I have read here that the GRE/Whistler/RS scanners don't do well on simulcast systems like MARCS-IP.

You may be able to find a BCD396XT or BCD996XT for $250. These will work until they start using Phase II, which is reported to be far off in the future.

 

[mtindor]

I have read here that the GRE/Whistler/RS scanners don't do well on simulcast systems like MARCS-IP.

You may be able to find a BCD396XT or BCD996XT for $250. These will work until they start using Phase II, which is reported to be far off in the future.

You might be able to get a 396/996, but they are not any better in my experience on LSM systems. Only BCD436/536HPs seem to work better than anything else -- not perfect, but better.

And I already told him that. He's looking for a cheap miracle that isn't going to happen.

Mike

 

[Medziatkowicz35]

I want to stay under 250 or 300. Basically what I would get for the 652 would be put into the new scanner with up to 100 extra. Would prefer to keep the 652 if I can make it work.

 

[Medziatkowicz35]

Ok I settled on a bcd396xt for now. How can I get a better signal from Jefferson County? I have the 800mhz antenna but it doesn't seem to help. I don't know much about the settings.

 

[darunimal]

Digital AGC OFF, Attenuation ON, Just scan the Jefferson Site, turn squelch to 13 if you don't want to use Attenuation, and/or with scanner off Press HOLD and with it held, Press POWER and change to P25 THRESHOLD to Manual and try 7, 6 and 8 for at least a half-hour each these may help decode

 

[ofd8001]

Digital AGC OFF, Attenuation ON, Just scan the Jefferson Site, turn squelch to 13 if you don't want to use Attenuation, and/or with scanner off Press HOLD and with it held, Press POWER and change to P25 THRESHOLD to Manual and try 7, 6 and 8 for at least a half-hour each these may help decode

+1 - the P25 adjustments can be changed as described in the Menu>Settings>P25 Adjust Mode. You can also experiment with the Menu>Settings>P25 Adjust Level.

The "best" combination is highly dependent on your system and where you are with respect to the sites. For me on my system I use 13/175, but my neighbor uses 11/150 on his. You just have to experiment with lots of patience.

 

[Medziatkowicz35]

what can i do about simulcast issues?

 

[W8RMH]

what can i do about simulcast issues?

Simulcast digital distortion - The RadioReference Wiki

 

[PAGANC412912]

The way I do it here in pa is simple. Use a non 800 antenna i.e. All band. Set any p25 adjustment to a higher level (uniden) is 5 to 13 and I set manual 10 so if gre or whistler compensate on the numbers. Then if needed att. If more is needed then I'll find a site that has most of the tgs from that site if possible. If not I throw the 800 antenna on and find a weak signal area with no att or nut Hong and run off that specific location. Sounds real picky and I can't be more accurate than that. It's a pain in the rear sometimes.

 

[Nasby]

Here's a fun solution:

http://forums.radioreference.com/mi...forum/331324-simulcast-distortion-buster.html