New State P25 system online!

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While traveling through eastern okie land this week, I found a few P25 data channels and some associated TGIDs active! Whoa. I had no idea this was online...is there anyone around the Muskogee/Tahlequah area that can watch this system as it grows?

Here is my db submission:
The new State of Oklahoma P25 system seems to be online in eastern OK!

Found info:
P25 Phase 1 (but Unitrunker showed it supported TDMA...weird)
System ID: 92C
WACN: BEE00
Nac: 92F

Band plans found (standard):
00-0000 to 00-4095: Base 851.00625, Step 6.250
01-0000 to 01-4095: Base 762.00625, Step 6.250

Sites online:
(all Region 1)
Site ID 001-051 Tahlequah - WQNE779
35.93658, -94.95411
853.0125
854.9625
855.4875
856.4875
857.4875
858.4875
859.4875
860.4875 primary CC


Site ID 001-052 Gore - WQNE779
35.585, -95.11139
855.9625
856.2625
857.2625
858.2625
859.2625 alt CC
860.2625 primary CC

Site ID 001-053 Muskogee (2 site simulcast) - WQNE779
851.1500
851.4500
852.0125
852.2250 primary CC
852.4000 alt CC
853.2250
853.5875
853.8375

Active groups (not totally ID'd) are:
1825 - probably Muskogee PD 1
3949
Both are clear P25 digital (no encryption heard). Both sound like PD/OHP. If I had a guess now, 1825 is Muskogee PD 1 (on old system, it was TGID 29200 dec / 721 hex. Convert 1825 to hex, and that is 721. This ID was heard on the Muskogee site too). ID 3949 converts to F6D, which isnt listed on the old system page as confirmed, but as "proposed" as Norman area building maintenance - not so here.
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Muskogee PD radios heard: ID 24202
Group 3949 radios heard: IDs 23817 (dispatcher) and 24308
 

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This must be why I no longer copy OHP Troop C VHF low band mobiles on the 154.92 MHz Sallisaw Mobile Relay. I really miss the days of all OHP traffic being on VHF Low Band with high power transmitters. I could then hearTroops L, B, C and D from Northwest Arkansas. Now I can only pick up the 800 MHz OHP during band openings. I have the Tulsa, Bristow, Pryor, Okmulgee,Vinita, Miami, Grove and Coweta sites programmed in BCD996T waiting for a band openning while I also scan AWIN. Nobody seems to be an online audio feed provider of OHP on 800 MHz that I can find. Thanks for these new site freqeuncies that I currently didn't see on the Radio Reference website. I can't program in the Muskogee 860.4875 Primary control and 859.2375 Seconday control frequencies due to local PD Trunking being on the same frequencies in Arkansas. Thanks for your new Muskogee simulcast frequencies. I will give these a try.
 

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I just posted this information to the main database. I have been expecting this new OKWIN TRS to go online sometime this year, but this was faster than expected. Since this system will fully support 700/800 MHz frequencies, it might be a good idea to search both bands, as you never know what might come online in the future.

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I just noticed the new database listing has 852.0125 and 853.0125 listed.
Those are post-rebanding nationwide interoperability channels. (see Common Public Safety - The RadioReference Wiki)
Somebody should verify if they are really using those as trunked system voice channels.

Good catch - looks like Muskogee site didn't list 852.0125 as a voice channel from Unitrunker, but it was only listed on the same fcc license.

Also, Thunderbolt, I think the TGID info was mis-interpreted. Muskogee PD 1 should be 1825 dec.
 

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Good catch - looks like Muskogee site didn't list 852.0125 as a voice channel from Unitrunker, but it was only listed on the same fcc license.

Also, Thunderbolt, I think the TGID info was mis-interpreted. Muskogee PD 1 should be 1825 dec.

No problem! :)

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Living in Eastern BA/ Wagoner County I have level 3 signal strength using a roof mounted antenna on my PSR-600, had it set to search since about 2 today and wasn't hearing anything. It has become active on Muskogee PD ID 1825 but it is spotty cuts in and out while Disp. talks and there isn't much PD activity or I'm not gettting it all due to low signal.....
 

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Musk PD is still using their 'talk-around' channel(155.415).Still catching OHP relay(154.920),and,44.70,44.90.I guess it's just a matter of time before it all goes APCO 25.
Muskogee water,city,ect.,and County Sheriff is still on VHF.Anybody think these services will combine with MPD,as one trunked digital system?
 

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There was a news story on KJRH tonight about Muskogee's new E911 center coming on-line this week, no mention of the new radios other than now they are 800 MHz capable and can talk with others on the state 800 MHz system. Also touted that the surrounding counties are all tied together.
 

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There was a news story on KJRH tonight about Muskogee's new E911 center coming on-line this week, no mention of the new radios other than now they are 800 MHz capable and can talk with others on the state 800 MHz system. Also touted that the surrounding counties are all tied together.

Muskogee Co. 911 Center opens

For some reason the edit function is not showing up.....
 

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092c??

If the system is 092C and has the same talkgroups, why is it being listed separately from the rest of the system? It's just another tower. Sure, it's actually P25, but so what?
 

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Could it be this that the controller is P-25 and all the other controllers are M36 on the system and on my Pro 197 I have to set the trunked system type to MOT 800/900 and it works and it I try setting it to P-25 Auto or manual I get no T when Scanning. That is why it might be listed as a separate system.
 

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Could it be this that the controller is P-25 and all the other controllers are M36 on the system and on my Pro 197 I have to set the trunked system type to MOT 800/900 and it works and it I try setting it to P-25 Auto or manual I get no T when Scanning. That is why it might be listed as a separate system.

Sure, it's P25 (real P25 presumably with a 9600-baud control channel) but so? That's just a setting on the radio. It's one system with one set of talkgroups with a bunch of different sites.
 

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It's truly a separate system. Sure, there can be patches between them, but the old state smartzone system is fully independent of this new system. Usually system admins use the same TGID info from an old system to make the new system (lazyness?). Take Texas Tech University for example...when they converted thier Type II Motorola system to full P25 in 2007-2008, they used all the same (in hexadecimal) TGIDs for the same purpose. It seems to be the same here (should make ID'ing them easier!).
 
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