OKWIN Site 8 Rebanding Issues

[woodyrr]

fast2okc has reported that the OKWIN Oklahoma City site has rebanded. I am having issues and I suspect others will too. Anyone who wants to hash out problems can do so here.

I have BCD396T and BCD996T. Both have updated firmware. I have added a new site by entering:

MENU > Program System > Select System "OK DPS Central" > Edit Site > New Site > "DPS Rebanded" > Set Frequencies > New Frequency > "857.9375" > MENU > Edit Band Plan > Band Plan 1 > Set Base Freq > "851.0250" > Input Upper "854.000" > MENU > Set Offset > "440" > Select Polarity "+ Polarity" > MENU > Set Spacing > "25.0 KHz" > MENU > Band Plan 2 > Set Base Freq > "851.0120" > Insert Upper "868.9875" > MENU > Set Offset > "0" > > Select Polarity "+ Polarity" > Set Spacing > "25.0 KHz". Which is what the WIKI suggests.

It works a lot better than it did, but it looks like it is still missing traffic. Has someone figured out a different set of parameters? I tried 12.5 KHz spacing but that appears to have made it worse.

http://info.uniden.com/twiki/bin/vie...ter_the_Update

[woodyrr]

Oops! Never mind. It looks like one little digit was off and it messed up the whole thing.

I couldn't use UASD to change the system types in the scanners so I downloaded an application called freescan. I changed all of the systems that rely on the OKC site to Type II rebanded and entered the base frequencies and offsets. There were a bunch of them, but I have written one BCD996T and am writing the other one now. It should be a simple matter to update the BCD396T as well - - I hope!

[HogDriver]

I'm using Win500 for my Pro-106. I have selected 800 MHz "Rebanded" in the trunking table section but it looks like its still missing traffic.

[woodyrr]

I had to enter base and offset frequencies for two band plans in a table once I selected "rebanded". you might look for an option for that.

BTW, I am getting tired of the auto correct changing "rebanded" to "rebounded"

[HogDriver]

I selected "Rebanded" and "Custom" trunking tables and I don't think I've had any dead air yet. I'll keep watching.

[HogDriver]

What percentage of Oklahoma sites are still not Rebanded on OKWIN?

[plaws]

Originally Posted by HogDriver

What percentage of Oklahoma sites are still not Rebanded on OKWIN?

Not many are. If they hold out long enough, Sprint will abandon the project.

In the DB listing for Site 8, there is one frequency listed in the 880 MHz range. This is clearly wrong!

Well ... I just looked at the DB and it appears that 5 more sites just turned green. OK, then.

[nd5y]

Yesterday I was running Unitrunker on the Lawton site and it showed 867.0875 as the neighbor CC for site 28.

Anybody know why they have two sites, Elgin and Fletcher, 5 miles apart?
WQEN873 (OKLAHOMA, STATE OF) FCC Callsign Details
WQJC248 (Oklahoma, State of) FCC Callsign Details

[plaws]

Originally Posted by woodyrr

I had to enter base and offset frequencies for two band plans in a table once I selected "rebanded". you might look for an option for that.

BTW, I am getting tired of the auto correct changing "rebanded" to "rebounded"

Anyone know what needs to be done for a Uniden 'XT in Freescan? I see the selection for "Mot Custom/Reband Type II" and the System Band Plan slots that appear when you select that ... but ... what do I put in the latter? Same as what woodyrr did above?

Edit: Looking at the DB entry for Site 8 (which still has an 881-MHz channel listed), I don't see any of the upper/lower/offset stuff so even if I renewed my RR subscription, would Freescan "do the right thing" if I imported it?

[woodyrr]

This looks like the plan for Uniden scanners. It worked for my 396T and 996Ts it also is the plan for the 796D


Band Plan Base Freq (Lower) Base Freq (Upper) Offset Polarity Spacing
1 851.0250MHz 854.0000MHz 440 + 25 kHz
2 851.0125MHz 868.9875MHz 0 + 25 kHz

P.S. There is a digital error in my initial post and I cannot correct it. Do not use it as a reference for the frequencies.

P.P.S. The freescan app has an auto upper limit calculation feature that returns different values for the upper limit than those in the Uniden table. I used the Uniden frequencies instead.

[plaws]

Originally Posted by woodyrr

Band Plan Base Freq (Lower) Base Freq (Upper) Offset Polarity Spacing
1 851.0250MHz 854.0000MHz 440 + 25 kHz
2 851.0125MHz 868.9875MHz 0 + 25 kHz

Slots in Freescan (with a BCD396XT at least) are

Lower Freq
Upper Freq
Step
Offset

Nothing about polarity, but the rest fit assuming step == spacing.

[woodyrr]

With those four entries, you ought to be good to go. Let us know how it works.

[Thunderbolt]

Recently, the state of Oklahoma has filed to make some frequency and licensing changes in the Oklahoma City area. From what I can gather, these applications are for the simulcast system. Here are the license applications below:

Application 1

Application 2

73's

Ron

[plaws]

Originally Posted by woodyrr

With those four entries, you ought to be good to go. Let us know how it works.

Roger that. Forgot I can't hear Site 8 from my desk.

[woodyrr]

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt

Recently, the state of Oklahoma has filed to make some frequency and licensing changes in the Oklahoma City area. From what I can gather, these applications are for the simulcast system. Here are the license applications below:

Application 1

Application 2

73's

Ron

From looking at the applications, all of the output frequencies listed are currently in use on the rebanded site 8 simulcast except 851.2375 and 853.9875. Don't know about those.

[plaws]

Originally Posted by woodyrr

From looking at the applications, all of the output frequencies listed are currently in use on the rebanded site 8 simulcast except 851.2375 and 853.9875. Don't know about those.

Haven't had a chance to fire up Unitrunker yet but will this weekend. It should tell me/us what's what.

The settings you posted do seem to work for the BCD(3|9)96XT. MW Regional EMS ch 1 is pretty busy this morning and it seems to be following everything OK. I put the display in Mode 1 so the changing frequency gets displayed and all the new channels seem to be coming up.

[n5bew1]

Originally Posted by nd5y

Yesterday I was running Unitrunker on the Lawton site and it showed 867.0875 as the neighbor CC for site 28.

Anybody know why they have two sites, Elgin and Fletcher, 5 miles apart?
WQEN873 (OKLAHOMA, STATE OF) FCC Callsign Details
WQJC248 (Oklahoma, State of) FCC Callsign Details

It appears the tower near Fletcher is taller and on higher ground perhaps that tower site is replacing the shorter one at Elgin.

[Thunderbolt]

Originally Posted by woodyrr

From looking at the applications, all of the output frequencies listed are currently in use on the rebanded site 8 simulcast except 851.2375 and 853.9875. Don't know about those.

I suspect these new frequencies they are adding, are for additional channel loading purposes.


73's

Ron

[Bobster_rulez]

Just change the frequencies in site 8 to the following and everything will work, no need to change anything else, just manually enter these.. works great on my 996xt

851.0375
851.2375
851.5375
851.7625
852.1625
856.9375
857.9375 control
862.9125
863.3875
864.1625
864.3625
864.5375

[papadoc]

For what it's worth, if you go by the database, 881.23750 comes up out of band.