OKWIN Rebanding Status - Page 7

Freqed · #**121** (**permalink**) 01-18-2013, 5:02 PM

Looking at Unitrunker I am seeing Tulsa area ID's on the LCN 359, such as TCSO and EMSA as some of the traffic I noticed. Now with this in mind Tulsa should be programmed as Rebanded but with what band plan to follow the 359 channel?

HogDriver · #**122** (**permalink**) 01-19-2013, 6:49 PM

Well, when we do go P25, OKC and Tulsa will be first after Muskogee gets its system checked out.

rsrohloff · #**123** (**permalink**) 01-27-2013, 4:29 PM

There is another delay in making the reband switch for the Tulsa PD with no new date set.

drkatzjr · #**124** (**permalink**) 01-27-2013, 5:43 PM

My bet: 4-12 mo. Just based on how speedy and competent some gov operations are in OK

Freqed · #**125** (**permalink**) 01-27-2013, 9:24 PM

Pulling a unitrunker read tonight and LCN 476 is not showing up on the Tulsa site.

rsrohloff · #**126** (**permalink**) 02-09-2013, 8:59 PM

Switch over for Tulsa PD to rebanded control channels will be 0300 hours on 2-11

Freqed · #**127** (**permalink**) 02-09-2013, 9:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rsrohloff

Switch over for Tulsa PD to rebanded control channels will be 0300 hours on 2-11

Thanks Bob, stay safe.

peterjmag · #**128** (**permalink**) 02-09-2013, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rsrohloff

Switch over for Tulsa PD to rebanded control channels will be 0300 hours on 2-11

You mean the switchover to P25 not rebanding. Rebanding and upgrading to digital are not the same and continues to be used in the wrong context and confuses people. The rebanding of the Tulsa site is complete. What you mean to say is that TPD is upgrading to P25 aka digital on these past and future dates. I hope it works out for them.

PaulSuperman · #**129** (**permalink**) 02-10-2013, 1:41 AM

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Originally Posted by peterjmag

You mean the switchover to P25 not rebanding. Rebanding and upgrading to digital are not the same and continues to be used in the wrong context and confuses people. The rebanding of the Tulsa site is complete. What you mean to say is that TPD is upgrading to P25 aka digital on these past and future dates. I hope it works out for them.

Does anybody know if the OKC Metro site (site 8) I think, Is going to upgrade to P 25 digital with the Tulsa site (1)?

Freqed · #**130** (**permalink**) 02-10-2013, 7:18 AM

^^Doubt it, this is an agency decision not a collective whole system decision.

PaulSuperman · #**131** (**permalink**) 02-11-2013, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Freqed

^^Doubt it, this is an agency decision not a collective whole system decision.

And I am not talking system wide, I am talking 2 sites Tulsa, and OKC. I have seen this before in other states, on other systems. 3:00 ( 3 A.M.) on a Sunday morning a delay of 2 weeks or more I would say the whole site is going P 25. If it is divide all the moto (3600) talkgroups by 16. 16=1, 32=2, 48=3. ETC.
It goes by the HEX. We will see at 3.

peterjmag · #**132** (**permalink**) 02-11-2013, 1:25 AM

For off I hope you are wrong because I don't have the money for a digital scanner right now. The reason why I think its just TPD upgrading for now is the fact that there are a ton of users on just the Tulsa site alone form garbage collection all the way up to federal agencies. That's a crap ton of radios to upgrade in one setting. It's now 1:24 AM 2-11-12 and I am listening. So far so good LOL!

peterjmag · #**133** (**permalink**) 02-11-2013, 3:12 AM

It's 3:10 hours and I'm still hearing TPD all subfleets are on 7A 31248 analog. Another dead line not made. I'm going to bed.

Freqed · #**134** (**permalink**) 02-11-2013, 7:02 AM

Yeah I don't notice any difference yet either, ran unitrunker this morning but didn't have time to look it over. Heard 7-I Tac 3 running a hunt on E. 71st street so that wasn't encrypted.

peterjmag · #**135** (**permalink**) 02-11-2013, 7:41 AM

Good morning all! I spoke too soon TPD is on their way to P-25 here is what I have so far,,,

North 11280 Digital patched to 31248 analog
East 11376 Digital patched to 30736 analog
South 11472 Digital patched to 31024 analog

No encryption on the main sides which is good so far. Digital users have fun!

TPD analog Motorola 800 RIP 1987-2013

rsrohloff · #**136** (**permalink**) 02-11-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by peterjmag

Good morning all! I spoke too soon TPD is on their way to P-25 here is what I have so far,,,

North 11280 Digital patched to 31248 analog
East 11376 Digital patched to 30736 analog
South 11472 Digital patched to 31024 analog

No encryption on the main sides which is good so far. Digital users have fun!

TPD analog Motorola 800 RIP 1987-2013

There will be a patch for a few weeks until all analog channels are removed from the mobile and portable radios. The three main dispatch channels will not be encrypted all other TPD channels will.

drkatzjr · #**137** (**permalink**) 02-11-2013, 1:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rsrohloff

There will be a patch for a few weeks until all analog channels are removed from the mobile and portable radios. The three main dispatch channels will not be encrypted all other TPD channels will.

Questions directed for rsrohloff

Rsrohloff: When you speak of the final change over, will this mean that current TGID's
for 7-A 7-D and 7-G will change to the patches you discussed, starting with 1 ...
or will they remain as they are? At present, with my digital scanners, TG 11280 11376
and 11472 are not appearing.. only the "old" ones. - HomePatrol-1 -

Also, when you say all other channels will be encrypted, I assume you mean records
and car-to-car as well? I am unable to hear car-to-car traffic as of today. ---

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Moreover, I hear some discussion for units to switch over to a subfleet beginning with 10.
(ie 10-F) There is no record, to the best of my knowledge, of any documentation in RR
for any"10-" fleet for Tulsa Police. I could very well be over-looking something. I assume this is encrypted / covert?

Finally, will the respective control channels listed in RR for Tulsa represent all that we need for
programming ..(ie is it important to program the alternative cc, as well as all other 28 freq,
or -only- the CC'S. I have a GRE PSR-800 and a Uniden HomePatrol-1

Thank you for reading, and a special thanks for keeping us all updated. It is much appreciated!

rsrohloff · #**138** (**permalink**) 02-11-2013, 2:56 PM

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Originally Posted by drkatzjr

Questions directed for rsrohloff

Rsrohloff: When you speak of the final change over, will this mean that current TGID's
for 7-A 7-D and 7-G will change to the patches you discussed, starting with 1 ...
or will they remain as they are? At present, with my digital scanners, TG 11280 11376
and 11472 are not appearing.. only the "old" ones. - HomePatrol-1 -

Also, when you say all other channels will be encrypted, I assume you mean records
and car-to-car as well? I am unable to hear car-to-car traffic as of today. ---

--

Moreover, I hear some discussion for units to switch over to a subfleet beginning with 10.
(ie 10-F) There is no record, to the best of my knowledge, of any documentation in RR
for any"10-" fleet for Tulsa Police. I could very well be over-looking something. I assume this is encrypted / covert?

Finally, will the respective control channels listed in RR for Tulsa represent all that we need for
programming ..(ie is it important to program the alternative cc, as well as all other 28 freq,
or -only- the CC'S. I have a GRE PSR-800 and a Uniden HomePatrol-1

Thank you for reading, and a special thanks for keeping us all updated. It is much appreciated!

I put the new TIDs listed above in my HP1 and they are working fine and no doubt digital. Once all the old 7a ect are removed the new ones which on our radios are 9a right now will be moved down. All channels execpt the three main channels are encrypted and when the old channels are removed there will be no patching of channels and you will not hear them. Also 10F is a channel used by the Northern Oklahoma Fugitive unit TPD US Marshals and has been encrypted for a while now.

I updated the control channels from RR into the HP1 and replaced the three channels for UDE/UDN/UDS
as Peter posted this morning. It has been working fine so far. I just dropped all of the channels that are encrypted from the radio. I use ARC and it was very simple.

peterjmag · #**139** (**permalink**) 02-11-2013, 3:01 PM

My question is once the switch over is complete will the radio techs assign the old analog talkgroups to new users on the system or will they still be issued to TPD?

rsrohloff · #**140** (**permalink**) 02-11-2013, 3:10 PM

Peter I am not sure what they are going to do with the old freqs. Also for everyone programing the new channels for TPD about 3 years ago we changed the name of the Uniform Divisions and I have no idea why the radio shop has not changed them over. But when you are listening you will hear units refer to the divisions by their names.

UDN now GID Gilcrease Division

UDE now MVD Mingo Valley Division

UDSW now RID Riverside Division

I just program my scanners with the new names