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10-11-2012, 9:00 AM
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My 2 CYYZ Feeds are going offline as of October 15th...
I know it was short lived, but with the changeover to Broadcastify, I have absolutely no incentive to keep these feeds running. I am a paid member so it has nothing to do with losing a free membership, There is nothing at Broadcastify that I would be interested in hearing and I am only interested in local stuff....etc.....I spent ALOT of time and money to get those antenna's installed on the roof of my apartment and I am tying up 2 PC's providing these feeds which very few people are listening to. My max number of listeners for the CYYZ Tower feeds is only 12, and for the CYYZ Fire/Operations feed, maybe 5 users max...
I see no further point of providing these 2 feeds and tying up 2 good scanners I could be monitoring unless someone has something they really really want to hear...
regards,
Jason
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10-11-2012, 10:38 AM
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I don't blame you. I see no value in Broadcastify for feed providers. I had been considering hosting a feed myself until RR announced this move. Now? Nope, nothing in it for me.
I'm sorry to see your feeds go – I had been listening on and off since you launched them – but I completely understand your decision. At least you still get to enjoy the fruits of your labours.
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10-11-2012, 11:45 AM
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Sorry about that - I enjoyed having your fire ops stream in the ScannerLive mix.
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10-11-2012, 12:09 PM
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If something like this happened while your feeds were operating, you would have the opportunity to stream the tower and response communications to potentially thousands of listeners:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_358
With that said, I'm not sure what the initial motivation was then if you dedicated all that time and effort to decide after two days it wasn't worth your while, simply because of the switch to broadcastify. Really kind of baffled, but best of luck and sorry we are losing you as a provider.
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10-11-2012, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by blantonl
If something like this happened while your feeds were operating, you would have the opportunity to stream the tower and response communications to potentially thousands of listeners:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_358
With that said, I'm not sure what the initial motivation was then if you dedicated all that time and effort to decide after two days it wasn't worth your while, simply because of the switch to broadcastify. Really kind of baffled, but best of luck and sorry we are losing you as a provider.
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My Loyalty and time was put forth to RadioReference, not Broadcastify. I can admit, when I first signed up to do the audio feeds, I was not aware of the switch to Broadcastify...It was only when I started monitoring the Live Feed Forums that I learned of the switch. RadioReference was my "one stop shop" for all my listening, information and support needs. I just have no interest in dealing with another website that has nothing else to offer me. The reason why I installed both of these Antenna's on the roof of my apartment was for my own enjoyment, but once I had them up there, I figured I would help others who cannot hear the airport as clearly as I can, and give back to the community.... I spent hundreds of dollars on LMR-400 cabling, antenna's couplers, right down to the clamps, liquid electrical tape and many cases of beer for the landlord for my own enjoyment, but also enjoyed giving back to the RadioReference Community.
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10-11-2012, 6:41 PM
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Jason,
I really appreciate you putting in the time and effort for RadioReference. I'm hoping that one day you'll see that our efforts on Broadcastify will be worth the same effort.
Our team is working really hard to deliver something great. Our launch on Oct 15th might change your mind  maybe not?
Do understand though that your feed will not immediately disappear from RadioReference on Oct 15th (unless you decide to terminate it yourself). The transition will probably last for weeks and certainly into November. That is a slight change from what we have announced, but we're going to make sure that the transition is as smooth as possible for all parties, including us on the rollout end. It's a big project for us.
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10-11-2012, 9:55 PM
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I don't blame you for deciding to discontinue your feeds. I don't provide a feed, but if I did I would likely do the same. On RR, you get value - a premium subscription so you can create reports, access the data etc... With the "divorce", you'll get a premium membership on Broadcastify, but the only benefit that gives you is access to archives. To me, the RR subscription is FAR more valuable.
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10-11-2012, 10:25 PM
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Plus alerts, which to me is far more valuable.
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10-12-2012, 8:10 PM
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What do you mean by alerts?
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10-13-2012, 12:31 AM
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I too am considering discontinuing my feed, even though I recently just started it. While I have no problems providing a feed, it's nice to get a little something back for your effort... I have been a member of this site since back in the trunkedradio.net days, and I appreciated the extras you would get as a feed provider here at RR. At this point I provide my feed mainly as a service to my fellow local fire fighters that wish to listen in while at work/out of the area, and residents in the area. But if there is no longer incentive to provide a public feed, why not just make my feed private and put the address on the white board down at the hall.
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10-13-2012, 8:32 AM
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Originally Posted by exkalibur
What do you mean by alerts?
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When a feed provider posts an alert on his feed, it shows up on the alert page. You can be notified automatically when that happens so you can tune in the feed to listen and/or alert through ScannerLive.
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10-13-2012, 10:15 AM
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here is my 2 cents. The only one that gains out of any feeds is Lindsay, I figured this would come to this, Feeds are what is killing our hobby. First they nailed us with buying our apps to listen to the feeds and i figured the income from that would drop off so now it looks like you will have to pay to listen to the feeds.
In Lindsay's defense i understand the cost aspects of running the audio servers, their was a reason Lindsay why you go that other company with the feeds, it was losing money and your Broadcastify will be the same way. At least if it goes broke it wont take down RR at the same time... IMHO
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10-13-2012, 10:31 AM
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I think all this "If I can't make all the touchdowns, I'm taking my ball and going home" BS is petty.
I was skeptical when I first read it all, but I think people need to chill and see what develops, it's not like all the griping will make them reverse course. That's like people who work for a company who merges or acquires another...do you really think employees or customers griping will make them just reverse course?
Let's see what happens...maybe you still won't like it, or maybe you'll eat crow. Give it a chance.
So what if you have to go to two separate web sites to get RR and the feeds. And, not everything is free in life. I think these services are nice to have around. I used to provide a feed, but I gave it up to let another guy in my area provide it because he had a digital scanner for the State system, and I have not spent the money to get one yet. I still use RR, and I am not a Premium Member. Not that I wouldn't become one, I think if you want to use something free more than casually, you might want to contribute, and I have done that with other "free" things. I may be able to provide a feed for an uncovered county south of me soon, I just need install another antenna and find a PC for my site. When I do, it's because I want to participate...not for freebies.
Chill people.
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10-13-2012, 10:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome69
so now it looks like you will have to pay to listen to the feeds.
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That's just stupid.
You realize that the cost you will have to pay is:
$0.00
(That is ZERO dollars and ZERO cents, which normally I wouldn't have to spell out but it appears you haven't read ANYTHING related to the switch.)
Sigh. Where do people come up with this stuff... There is no cost to listen to the feeds, there are no apps that you have to pay for, and nothing will go broke.
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10-13-2012, 12:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rdale
That's just stupid.
You realize that the cost you will have to pay is:
$0.00
(That is ZERO dollars and ZERO cents, which normally I wouldn't have to spell out but it appears you haven't read ANYTHING related to the switch.)
Sigh. Where do people come up with this stuff... There is no cost to listen to the feeds, there are no apps that you have to pay for, and nothing will go broke.
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Really? and whats the $6.95 to pay for a month? I know its free for the feed providers. The apps i am talking about is the phone apps and on the black berry it was $3 to buy 
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10-13-2012, 12:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome69
Really? and whats the $6.95 to pay for a month? I know its free for the feed providers. The apps i am talking about is the phone apps and on the black berry it was $3 to buy 
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The 6.95 is for a premium membership -access to feed archives, etc.
Live access to the feeds are free.
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10-13-2012, 12:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheManBornWithin
The 6.95 is for a premium membership -access to feed archives, etc.
Live access to the feeds are free.
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K ty for explaining that. Still don't see it flying but that my opinion...
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10-13-2012, 1:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome69
K ty for explaining that. Still don't see it flying but that my opinion...
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You don't see a FREE service, IDENTICAL to what we have now, flying? Many mobile apps are free, and you can get it on your smartphone with RR Mobile
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10-13-2012, 9:13 PM
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I think the $7/month is steep. I would have no problem paying say, $35/year for archive access. Its just priced too high for the average person, I think.
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10-14-2012, 12:19 AM
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So you dedicate a scanner and computer 24/7 for feeding audio, pay the internet and hydro bills every month... and you get $7 back for it. Which you'd promptly spend it right back at RR for a premium account so it's (much) easier to download data to your scanner...
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