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01-07-2013, 3:03 PM
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City of Hamilton Frequencys
Hello All been Awhile Since I Been Here My question Is Have The City Of Hamilton roads Dept Gone Encrypt ?? Reason I Am Asking Is That They Have Had A Snow Blower Out Blowing Snow Into Dump Trucks And Ive Been Looking For The Freq Ive loaded All The Frequency's Into My Psr 500 and still Cant find them Does Anyone Have Any Ideas Hoping someone In Hamilton Can Answer This Question
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01-07-2013, 11:15 PM
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So.. No chance at hearing anything.
All users are ENC
Police, Fire, Public Works, everyone who was on the motorola system and now on the P25.. never going to hear. Makes dull scanning for the city
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01-08-2013, 8:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Muxlow
So.. No chance at hearing anything.
All users are ENC
Police, Fire, Public Works, everyone who was on the motorola system and now on the P25.. never going to hear. Makes dull scanning for the city
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Yup money is no object for that city, the little sidewalk plow has the same encrypted radio as the police and fire, they encrypted everything, other than the marine VHF channels and aviation bands there is nothing to listen to in that city.
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01-15-2013, 12:40 PM
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You can always listen to the fleetnet side of Hamt!
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01-15-2013, 11:05 PM
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Well, not EVERYTHING is encrypted...there's been some "in the clear" traffic reported. I want to say Hydro? Or maybe Sewer? One of the municipal services are in the clear anyway.
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01-16-2013, 7:12 PM
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Originally Posted by exkalibur
Well, not EVERYTHING is encrypted...there's been some "in the clear" traffic reported. I want to say Hydro? Or maybe Sewer? One of the municipal services are in the clear anyway.
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Has that clear traffic actually been heard on the P25 system? nothing posted on RR. I think but am not sure that even works in encrypted on the P25.
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01-16-2013, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Tech4064
Has that clear traffic actually been heard on the P25 system? nothing posted on RR. I think but am not sure that even works in encrypted on the P25.
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Ya I have heard traffic on 2 different tg's that was not encrypted. As exkalibur said one I think could be either Hydro or a Municipal, maybe Works? from the sounds of what I heard. I have heard that tg come active from time to time. The other one I have heard only once and that was many many months ago (maybe Oct/Nov) so I have no idea what it was. Everything else I have on that system has been encrypted. You can't always trust what is in the RR Database to be complete/updated either.
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01-17-2013, 9:08 AM
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Originally Posted by mbstone99
You can't always trust what is in the RR Database to be complete/updated either.
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01-17-2013, 9:37 AM
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I'm pretty sure hydro is clear. Basically everything else is indeed encrypted. so I'm not sure why they left hydro in the clear.
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01-28-2013, 2:31 PM
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So if both Police and Fire are ENC whats that do for the media? I see Fire tweets their calls.. But they could be delayed..... Anyone want to chime in on this..
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02-08-2013, 6:59 AM
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Same BS as every where else...the tax payer just has to bend over a little more!
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02-08-2013, 8:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Chrome69
So if both Police and Fire are ENC whats that do for the media? I see Fire tweets their calls.. But they could be delayed..... Anyone want to chime in on this..
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They (Hamilton Police) have a media portal on their website, but from what I hear it isn't all that accurate or timely.
Then again, media these days are more concerned with the feel good BS stories, so maybe it works well for them.
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02-10-2013, 4:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Forts
I'm pretty sure hydro is clear. Basically everything else is indeed encrypted. so I'm not sure why they left hydro in the clear.
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The hydro dept is not owned by the city, maybe thats why they left it in the clear? Its the same company that serves St, Catharines as well.
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