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Also got System 141 RAN 7 in Vancouver on 451.475


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System ID 141 looks like Nike World Campus and the frequency is at the Hillsboro site.

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=9235

This morning on that freq I'm seeing Network: L141, Site 7, RAN 7

CH71 451.475cc

Neighbor Site 1 CH11 Control Channel, Site 6 CH61 and Site 8 CH81

Talkgroups seen 71, 72, 73, 74
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ok cool, im in fairview and barely picking it up
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i got radio communications services out of colton

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0451.675000	72		RAN=7
0451.475000	71		RAN=7   CC
0452.250000	74		RAN=7
0452.425000	73		RAN=7
couple of non Nike related talkgroups
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It may be Nike as itís not tracking very well


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i got radio communications services out of colton

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0451.675000	72		RAN=7
0451.475000	71		RAN=7   CC
0452.250000	74		RAN=7
0452.425000	73		RAN=7
couple of non Nike related talkgroups
Interesting. WPMI494 has all those freqs on it -- 3 freqs at one site (Scott Mills) and 1 freq on another site (Colton), both in Clackamas Co. The two sites are only 8 mi apart and I could imagine them just using whatever freqs they wanted from either licensed site location for one site.

WPMI494 is Radio Communications Service Inc ( Complete Wireless Solutions | Salem Oregon | Albany Oregon ).

One would have to wonder if this is really the "Nike" system or if its an RCI/CWS system and they have Nike as a corporate customer. In California, Telepath does something similar -- having numerous Apple sites/licenses as part of their system.

Just throwing it out there, especially considering your remark about "couple of non-Nike related talkgroups".

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453.0 is system 141 site 6 picked up near aurora


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Itís encrypted


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453.0 is system 141 site 6 picked up near aurora
That's another CWS (Complete Wireless Solutions) license - WPLX508 - with 3 sites (Amity / Salem / Scotts Mills) licensed. Although only you guys will be able to figure out which. Looks like both WPLX508 and the previous Radio Communications license I mentioned all have most of the frequencies you copied on them. A bunch of the same freqs licensed at 3-4 locations.

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My notes are showing Nike's system as system 180. The Nike Hillsboro site is site 2 RAN 2. It has a very small footprint. I was in Beaverton the other day not too far from Nike Beaverton and the Hillsboro site wasn't coming in at all so I was unable to run LCN finder. When I went into analyze mode on the 436HP I was getting the System 141 RAN 7 Complete Wireless Solutions system instead. Both systems have the same control channel frequency.

In order to grab the LCNs and to properly track the Nike Hillsboro site one might have to get really close to the Nike Hillsboro location. I can get Nike traffic on the voice freqs with RAN 2.
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141 Site 3 is close to Eugene 464.4125


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It doesn't look like this is NIKEs site after all. Here's what I tracked for a few minutes today up by Cornell Rd/Brookwood Pkwy on 451.4750. The talkgroups don't match any NIKE groups.


2018/04/16 11:41:15 Current network: L141
2018/04/16 11:41:15 Current site: L141-7
2018/04/16 11:41:33 L141-7 neighbor: Site L141-1; CC=11
2018/04/16 11:41:33 L141-7 neighbor: Site L141-6; CC=61
2018/04/16 11:41:33 L141-7 neighbor: Site L141-8; CC=81
2018/04/16 11:42:02 Group call; TG=3163 RID=3172 Ch=72 2s
2018/04/16 11:42:07 Group call; TG=3163 RID=3180 Ch=73 2s
2018/04/16 11:42:12 Group call; TG=3163 RID=3172 Ch=74 13s
2018/04/16 11:42:37 Group call; TG=3163 RID=3180 Ch=72 4s
2018/04/16 11:42:45 Group call; TG=3163 RID=3172 Ch=73 2s
2018/04/16 11:42:58 Group call; TG=5000 RID=5037 Ch=74 2s
2018/04/16 11:43:10 Group call; TG=5000 RID=5015 Ch=72 1s
2018/04/16 11:43:13 Group call; TG=5000 RID=5037 Ch=73 9s
2018/04/16 11:43:32 Group call; TG=5000 RID=5015 Ch=74 2s
2018/04/16 11:43:37 Group call; TG=5000 RID=5002 Ch=72 3s
2018/04/16 11:43:46 Group call; TG=5000 RID=5015 Ch=73 1s
2018/04/16 11:43:49 Group call; TG=5000 RID=5002 Ch=74 8s
2018/04/16 11:43:59 Group call; TG=5000 RID=5015 Ch=72 3s
2018/04/16 11:44:09 Group call; TG=5000 RID=5015 Ch=73 2s
2018/04/16 11:44:15 Group call; TG=5000 RID=5037 Ch=74 2s
2018/04/16 11:44:22 Group call; TG=5000 RID=5015 Ch=72 1s
2018/04/16 11:44:26 Group call; TG=5000 RID=5037 Ch=73 16s
2018/04/16 11:44:45 Group call; TG=5000 RID=5015 Ch=74
2018/04/16 11:44:46 Group call; TG=5000 RID=5015 Ch=72 2s

I looked at NIKE's Beaverton Site control channel 451.14375 with these results:

These talkgroups are in line with NIKE's

NEXEDGE48 Site: L384-1 RAN: 1 NL: 2

2018/04/16 16:09:35 Current network: L384
2018/04/16 16:09:35 Current site: L384-1
2018/04/16 16:09:40 Registration; RID=2531 TG=410 ACCEPTED
2018/04/16 16:10:29 Registration; RID=2537 TG=410 ACCEPTED
2018/04/16 16:10:41 Registration; RID=2541 TG=410 ACCEPTED
2018/04/16 16:10:57 Affiliation; RID=1618 TG=160 ACCEPTED
2018/04/16 16:11:08 Registration; RID=2541 TG=410 ACCEPTED
2018/04/16 16:11:52 Group call; TG=160 RID=1614 Ch=4 3s
2018/04/16 16:11:57 Group call; TG=160 RID=1606 Ch=5 1s
2018/04/16 16:12:00 L384-1 neighbor: Site L384-2; CC=10
2018/04/16 16:12:00 Group call; TG=160 RID=1614 Ch=6 3s
2018/04/16 16:12:05 Group call; TG=160 RID=1614 Ch=2
2018/04/16 16:12:09 Group call; TG=160 RID=1606 Ch=3 4s
2018/04/16 16:12:13 Group call; TG=340 RID=1024 Ch=4 1s
2018/04/16 16:12:15 Group call; TG=160 RID=1614 Ch=5 2s
2018/04/16 16:12:18 Group call; TG=400 RID=2536 Ch=6 3s
2018/04/16 16:12:22 Group call; TG=340 RID=1019 Ch=2
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I'll have Silke site 35 hopefully soon its on Mt Ashland south of Medford
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ok for the Medford area i found 2 Silke towers

Site 15
CH 949 464.9750
CH 53 454.0500 CC
CH 143 454.6125
CH 305 460.9500


Site 25 Wolf Creek? Neighbors 15,35,36,37

CH 49 454.025 CC
CH 95 454.3125
CH 150 454.65625

Site 35 Mount Ashland Site Neighbor is 25
51 454.0375
259 460.6625
291 460.8625

Same 2 talkgroups are active on both 236 (school busses) and 360

Still Working on them till i leave


one thing i am noticing is the channel numbers are staying consistent across the system, this will make it a bit easier to figure out which would make sense since it is a multi site network, I have attached my findings so far here
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ok for the Medford area i found 2 Silke towers

one thing i am noticing is the channel numbers are staying consistent across the system, this will make it a bit easier to figure out which would make sense since it is a multi site network, I have attached my findings so far here
I'm 100% (well close) positive that the channel numbers would have to remain consistent across their entire system. Otherwise, when travelling out of your home area your radio wouldn't know what to do.

I heard a Cottage Grove School District bus last week come over the mountain to a track meet in Sisters, went from one site to the next.
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also some sites are transmitting the same talkgroups at the same time

here today site 25,15, and 35 all had the same traffic

as sites are added ill keep filling out that worksheet, licensing is sporadic at best
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Another Consumers Power Mary's Peak voice frequency:

152.2925 LCN 8 RAN 2
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I updated your channel map with some of the ones I have found.
I have also updated some of the info in the WIKI related to this system.

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